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« Reply #120 on: 10:03:40, 16-03-2008 »



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« Reply #121 on: 12:16:08, 18-03-2008 »

I feel a bit as if I'm in the Naughty Corner. Haven't been in here before.

I just finished spending the equivalent of one third of the month's housekeeping on a book of songs (published) by Susato. I may have to give up time online now to go busking in town. I suppose I should take comfort from the thought that quite a few of the songs focus on impecuniary worries.
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« Reply #122 on: 13:10:40, 18-03-2008 »

I just finished spending the equivalent of one third of the month's housekeeping on a book of songs (published) by Susato. I may have to give up time online now to go busking in town. I suppose I should take comfort from the thought that quite a few of the songs focus on impecuniary worries.

What sort of songs?
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« Reply #123 on: 14:12:21, 18-03-2008 »

An assortment of entertaining 4-part songs for the more educated Dutch families and nobles.
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« Reply #124 on: 17:41:17, 18-03-2008 »

An assortment of entertaining 4-part songs for the more educated Dutch families and nobles.
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« Reply #125 on: 11:04:26, 25-03-2008 »

Can someone recommend a recording of the Monteverdi Vespers?

I'll wait patiently ...
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« Reply #126 on: 12:15:59, 25-03-2008 »

Hi Mort - I haven't yet heard one I can recommend (because I haven't heard many - I tend to avoid listening to things I play frequently), but I can let you know a couple observations about the two I have.

I've got John Eliot Gardiner's one that was recorded in San Marco.  It's interesting, but I find the sound quite hollow and the playing not nearly as inventive as I would wish.  Some of the tempi are on the edge of too fast for my taste, too.  But what I find most unforgiveable is that he unaccountably does the Magnificat at the wrong (high) pitch, so you miss that "Orthodox" sound of the extremely low basses.  There's no excuse for that with such a fine choir (I can understand amateur choirs, which usually are weakest among their men, fudging the issue over which clef Monteverdi used when writing the Magnificat, but not a good strong professional group).

I also have Andrew Parrott's with very small forces - it's lovely, but a little too lovely - sort of the opposite - very intimate, but a bit slow in places and sometimes in need of a good injection of spirit.

So I'm afraid that's probably not much help.  I haven't heard the recent-ish one from the Gabrieli Consort, but I know the two violinists (and most of the others) quite well and I imagine from the forces alone it would be worth a listen.

I'd be very interested to hear what people say about other versions myself.
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« Reply #127 on: 12:48:09, 25-03-2008 »

I've always found the Gardiner too fast and not up to his usual standards, strangely given that this is supposedly such a key work for him. I've only heard the McCreesh once but I remember not being that keen on some of the singing (not a very helpful comment I know).

Harnoncourt (1966) also has the Magnificat at high pitch and all kinds of no-longer-very-"authentic"-sounding instrumental obbligati all over the place, but I love it.

Alessandrini (2004) is my current favourite: it has a small and cohesive vocal ensemble, fine instrumentalists, much intensity and a low-pitched Magnificat. Whereas most ensembles coming to the piece do so through experience in church music, Alessandrini's ensemble had performed and recorded almost all of Monteverdi's madrigals before arriving at the Vespers, and the result is as you might expect both expressive and intimate.
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« Reply #128 on: 12:50:51, 25-03-2008 »

   No contest, mort.       My first choice would be for the J E Gardiner recording, splendidly filmed at St Mark's, Venice but go for the DVD.     I've recently set out my prejudices on the Opera thread: 'House of the Dead'   Grin

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« Reply #129 on: 13:23:50, 25-03-2008 »

Thank you one and all for your feedback. Hmm. Prior to posting I was originally drawn to the Gardiner, although now you've mentioned the Gabrieli, strina, I think that bears investigating. Perhaps the River people have a snatch? (although I realise that method hardly tells the full story).

Stanley, indeed, you put your case most  convincingly on 'House of the Dead' Smiley My main hesitancy would be that the sound reproduction I have here for DVD would not do it justice - fine for dialogue but music is just drained of the finer points Sad
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« Reply #130 on: 14:26:55, 25-03-2008 »

Here's another option to consider, although I haven't yet heard it so I can't comment except to say that the performers are very fine musicians. It's actually a recent (2008) reissue of an older recording (Savall is now re-releasing all his old Naive recordings on his own label, Alia Vox), so maybe another member knows it and will be able to comment:

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« Reply #131 on: 15:14:12, 25-03-2008 »

The Savall is not bad for the most part although there's a somewhat jarring microtonal modulation between the opening bit of plainsong and the chorus which follows it, suggesting that they weren't recorded in that order. I haven't listened to it more than once or twice since the Alessandrini was released.
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« Reply #132 on: 18:04:35, 25-03-2008 »

I found on JPC over the weekend Reger - Complete chamber works on 23 CDs for about £60 and then, in the sameplace, complete piano music for about £70.  Oh dear...
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« Reply #133 on: 18:18:45, 25-03-2008 »



For what it's worth: as far as the Vespers go I'm still loyal to Parrott for some reason even though no one else seems to like it much and it's not difficult to pick it to bits on any number of grounds. It's certainly relatively cool as readings go although I don't find any heat really necessary here beyond what Monteverdi put there. For me Kirkby is at her very finest and Rogers is also still very fine although traces of manneredness were appearing even then. Otherwise not many of the voices are all that distinguished but there are enough of them who can get round the coloratura really convincingly and for me there's a sense of ensemble which I haven't yet found anywhere else. I've flirted with many other recordings of course (notably Gardiner on DG, McCreesh, Alessandrini) but that's the one I come back to.

I do find the Masterpiece status of the piece gets in the way of so many recordings in a way that doesn't happen with Selva morale e spirituale for example - people don't seem to be able to approach it really freshly. Bit like the St Matthew...

I would certainly recommend trying the McCreesh before making the financial commitment - I didn't personally feel it lived up to the best things he's done in that repertoire (such as the Venetian Vespers compilation or of course the Venetian Coronation one). In fact, Mort, if you want to try it you're more than welcome to mine... Wink
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« Reply #134 on: 09:00:50, 29-03-2008 »

Ive the John Eliot Gardiner version. Has Bryn Terfel in it!! A rather younger one at that(pre-Wagner days??). In some ways, the faster tempi pays off. At least it doesnt drag!!

Me the wife allow ourselves some (shall I say) pocket mon ey each month. For the past four months, Ive kept on buying cds all the time. The trou ble is Ive always seen some that look rather good!! Always the prob, yes? So Ive bought a collection of brass band cds and last month, classical. Next month, who knows!! Probably go and see my good freind at Fine Records in Hove!!
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