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Author Topic: The Com-Poser as Sartorial Exemplar  (Read 2686 times)
oliver sudden
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« on: 15:36:07, 21-04-2007 »



Because an explanation of those truly prodigious creases has occurred to us.
We confess we had not seen those creases as all that out of the ordinary - to us they seem an inescapable consequence of spending many hours of the day in a sitting position, as a composer (and even more so a pianist) needs must do. They do indeed seem a little lower down the trouser than we are used to now-a-days but we suspect that has to do with to-day's tendency toward lower waist-lines which if one thinks about it do tend to place the sitting crease relatively high on the trouser.

If one accepts that the photo-graph has likely been taken in the after-noon, perhaps even on a summer evening, then the only criticism of Shostakovich that one can objectively draw from the photo-graph is that Shostakovich injudiciously failed to allow for the possibility of a photo-grapher being present, and indeed of a photo-graph being taken in conditions of luminescence most unflattering to the after-noon sitting crease. In such a case as one accustomed to making public appearances he would surely have provided himself with darker trousers (as has Comrade Rostropovich on the left, spatially not politically and not his but ours) or with a crease-concealing jacket (as has Comrade Oistrakh).

We must surely also allow for the possibility that Shostakovich has been receiving Comrade Rostropovich, his good lady wife and Comrade Oistrakh as visitors, perhaps even unexpectedly. We would thus be prepared on closer examination to acknowledge extenuating circumstances for the slippage apparent here in his sartorial standards.



Future historians may care to note that this message originally appeared on the who was Shostakovich? thread. It should prove no trouble for those concerned to find our message which originally commenced this thread, designed for those Members wishing to reflect upon Composers' attire or lack thereof so to do while allowing the aforesaid thread to return to its purported topic.

We thank you for your attention.
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« Reply #1 on: 15:49:43, 21-04-2007 »

Never mind all that. What on earth is she wearing??!!
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« Reply #2 on: 15:53:40, 21-04-2007 »

Until we have a "who was Vishnevskaya?" thread I'm afraid it would be off-topic to speculate on that.

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« Reply #3 on: 15:57:34, 21-04-2007 »

Nor indeed should we be tempted into making any assumption about stochastic distribution. There are, by my reckoning, at least nine composers who honour us with their company here. All are known to be without moral blot. And, although the regularity of intimacy betwixt trouser and steam iron in one or two instances does not perhaps speak eloquently of the assiduousness of their valets, such minor blemish, while possibly causing comment among the denizens of the withdrawing room, has never been an impediment on the slopes of Mount Parnassus.

Indeed.  I hate to think that my work will be judged by the wrinkledness or lack thereof of my trousers (look, I didn't say "pants," I'm learning...).  Aaron in particular can attest, I would think, to the depths to which my reputation would sink were the sophistication and care of my wardrobe to impinge upon general judgements of my musical worth.

He, on the other hand, would be the Beethoven of our age.
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« Reply #4 on: 16:03:50, 21-04-2007 »

He, on the other hand, would be the Beethoven of our age.
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« Reply #5 on: 16:09:30, 21-04-2007 »

He, on the other hand, would be the Beethoven of our age.


Okay, okay, bad example.  The Haydn of his age, perhaps? Handel?  Mozart was pretty well turned out, wasn't he? Help me out here...
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« Reply #6 on: 16:20:02, 21-04-2007 »

Rameau scrubs up nice.

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« Reply #7 on: 16:27:11, 21-04-2007 »

I think Liszt and Chopin were dandies and could not be seeing with creases on their trausers.

I am back to my point about evil people being great musicians. That example of madrigal composer who killed his wife does not count because it was a crime of a passion.
What about people like Hitler or Stalin? Hitler could paint. He was not the greatest, but he could feel beauty. So he was not completely evil man. Stalin also came from seminary and knew a lot.
I guess an evil man can in theory write sublime music. I give up my point.

Shostakovich probably was at home working when Oistrach and Rostropovich gave him a visit. They of course had to go outside and they were in their good cloths, while Shostakovich is wearing his house cloths.
She is wearing what was fasionable in the 60s. I remember it wagely. Women were triangle dresses a litter different that this one.

She is wearing a longer version triangle dress, but because she is bigger than the models she looks like that Russian matrishka doll you call babushka.
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« Reply #8 on: 16:28:39, 21-04-2007 »

But imagine how Rameau must have smelt.

No, no, no. Stop that. We're wandering again. Anyone who wants to post about composers and their sartorial sense will find there's now a thread for the purpose. A thread about threads if you like.



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« Reply #9 on: 16:30:37, 21-04-2007 »

It is true that Beethoven was a little eccentric. The only times he would dress up were when he went out rambling.

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« Reply #10 on: 16:32:34, 21-04-2007 »

[It may be of interest to readers to note that this thread originally commenced here. Previous messages were moved here from a thread where they were even more off-topic than certain others. Smiley ]



The Shostakovich thread recently took a turn for the sartorial when Member Grew pondered the creases in the Shostakovich trouser. (Member Sudden was also swept up in the enthusiasm.)

One of the composers in our midst suggested jestingly that the compositional equivalent of the sartorial elegance habitually displayed by another Member would make him the Beethoven of our day. Which drew our minds instantly to the following picture:





Further thoughts on composers (or musicians in general) and their fashions are welcomed here. Especially insofar as they concern amusing parallels or perpendicularities between their dress sense and compositional/compositorial/musicianly output.
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« Reply #11 on: 16:37:35, 21-04-2007 »

I imagine that Scriabin, certainly in his later years, was not someone you'd readily invite round for tea and a bun.
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« Reply #12 on: 16:43:40, 21-04-2007 »

I imagine that Scriabin, certainly in his later years, was not someone you'd readily invite round for tea and a bun.

But he looks fairly presentable here -

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« Reply #13 on: 16:46:42, 21-04-2007 »

Oh he's presentable

Had a bit of a high opinion of himself, didn't he ? Bee's knees, cat's whiskers an' all that ?
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« Reply #14 on: 16:49:02, 21-04-2007 »

Oops, we should be over on Ollie's new composers' threads, er thread... Scarper!
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