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The Celebs are:- Goldie, Alex James, Jane Asher, Katie Derham, Peter Snow, David Soul, Sue Perkins and Bradley Walsh.  Peter Maniura, Head of BBC Classical Music Television, says: "Maestro will take the audience on a fascinating, surprising, thrilling and informative journey into the heart of music-making. It will delve into the practicalities, magic and mystery of what a conductor actually does to make great music happen." I think I'm going to be ill. What overpaid muppet thought that one up? |
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« Reply #46 on: 11:40:37, 24-05-2008 » |
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The Celebs are:- Goldie, Alex James, Jane Asher, Katie Derham, Peter Snow, David Soul, Sue Perkins and Bradley Walsh. Peter Maniura, Head of BBC Classical Music Television, says: "Maestro will take the audience on a fascinating, surprising, thrilling and informative journey into the heart of music-making. It will delve into the practicalities, magic and mystery of what a conductor actually does to make great music happen." Could someone let us know when it is due to be broadcast, so that we can avoid it at all costs? Is there any aspect of human endeavour which does not currently feature Alex James: journalism, Classic FM hosting, farming, cheese-making...........is he still a pop musician? Didn't The Life of Brian have a quote about "blessed are the cheese-makers"? |
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« Reply #47 on: 11:46:15, 24-05-2008 » |
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Perhaps it's time to have a 'let the celebs run R3 for a day' reality show....
For heaven's sake, isn't it more important to introduce people to music qua music first, before initiating them into its internal mysteries? Sounds a bit like running a whole programme on how referees cope with the offside rule but not broadcasting actual football matches. Barking, condescending and embarrassing.
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« Reply #48 on: 11:46:29, 24-05-2008 » |
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Indeed Descombes, it is a Python quite.
Who decided those people are suitable for a programme about conducting?
I despair, I really do.
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« Reply #49 on: 11:49:58, 24-05-2008 » |
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And there is also the peculiar view that the BBC was peddling forty years ago in the austere years of William Glock, but which I in the provinces took to be the case, namely that classical music in London is principally represented by the Proms.
There is far more to the classical scene than the Proms. But you would never guess from the BBC even then.
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A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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« Reply #50 on: 12:04:11, 24-05-2008 » |
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A bit more about the Celeb Conductor programme:-
"The panel is led by Sir Roger Norrington – who will be conducting the Last Night Of The BBC Proms 2008 at the Royal Albert Hall – and also includes composer and cellist Zoë Martlew, conductor Simone Young and double bassist Dominic Seldis.
At the end of each show the judging panel and members of the BBC Concert Orchestra will decide which student will be voted off.
Under constant scrutiny, from both the judges and the orchestra they are conducting, the students will have to show beyond any doubt that they have the talent, passion and nerves of steel necessary to conduct a full orchestra as part of one of the most famous events in the classical music calendar: BBC Proms In The Park, part of the Last Night Of The Proms."
One can only be thankful that it's not a phone-in vote .....
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« Reply #51 on: 12:13:11, 24-05-2008 » |
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A bit more about the Celeb Conductor programme:-
At the end of each show the judging panel and members of the BBC Concert Orchestra will decide which student will be voted off.
So they've gone for the complete "Pop Idol" format. Can no-one at the BBC understand that conducting is a specialised skill which requires years of training and experience? What's next? "Celeb Brain Surgeon"? A group of celebrities given a crash course; anyone undertaking an unsuccessful operation is voted off! |
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« Reply #52 on: 12:27:35, 24-05-2008 » |
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What's next? "Celeb Brain Surgeon"? A group of celebrities given a crash course; anyone undertaking an unsuccessful operation is voted off! That is an excellent idea, Descombes, as long as the patients are also celebrities. Could there ever be a Maestro where a bunch of non-musicians would be given the task of playing in the BBC Concert Orchestra? Of course not. There's an assumption here that conducting is 90% showmanship and 10% musicianship. Of course there will be someone in the background rehearsing the musicians, and they'll be professional enough anyway to manage to hold things together on their own no matter what the clown on the podium is doing. And what an undignified business for Roger Norrington to be involved in. He should be ashamed of himself. |
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« Reply #53 on: 12:48:11, 24-05-2008 » |
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The Celebs are:- Goldie, Alex James, Jane Asher, Katie Derham, Peter Snow, David Soul, Sue Perkins and Bradley Walsh. Can they all read music? And, not just one line at a time? |
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« Reply #54 on: 13:13:19, 24-05-2008 » |
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The Celebs are:- Goldie, Alex James, Jane Asher, Katie Derham, Peter Snow, David Soul, Sue Perkins and Bradley Walsh. Can they all read music? And, not just one line at a time? Erm ... Goldie: You don't need to if you are drum 'n bass and a can of spray paint. Alex James: Well, he plays bass guitar so no need to read music is there? Jane Asher: Didn't she go out with Paul McCartney? He might have taught her something Peter Snow: Invented the Swingometer so he may well have rhythm David Soul: Didn't he record something? The other three - Sorry, I have no idea who they are I guess an ability to read music would be an asset for a conductor ..... ?? |
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« Reply #55 on: 13:30:29, 24-05-2008 » |
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Didn't Sue Perkins do stand up as part of the Mel and Sue act? Oh and the Kingsmill bread ads ...  |
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« Reply #56 on: 13:50:37, 24-05-2008 » |
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Peter Snow: Invented the Swingometer so he may well have rhythm
A maestro performer on it indeed but not the inventor. Bob McKenzie is the man we flower children of the Swinging Sixties forever associate with it when it swung away between Gladstone and Disraeli Wilson and Heath.   (And Mr Google says he didn't invent it either which is disappointing news.) Ooh look  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPdyfK9FbIM |
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« Reply #57 on: 23:01:53, 24-05-2008 » |
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Perhaps they will wheel in Alan Sugar to tell the unsuccessful candidate _YOUR FIRED,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #58 on: 19:01:19, 25-05-2008 » |
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The BBC's predictability is now beyond parody. Browsing through the Observer TV listings for Friday, I see that BBC4 is starting a four week series on Early Music. OK, fine so far, but
Presented by Charles Hazlewood!!! AAGH!!!!!
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« Reply #59 on: 19:05:11, 25-05-2008 » |
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Erm ... Goldie: You don't need to if you are drum 'n bass and a can of spray paint.
Alex James: Well, he plays bass guitar so no need to read music is there?
Jane Asher: Didn't she go out with Paul McCartney? He might have taught her something
Peter Snow: Invented the Swingometer so he may well have rhythm
David Soul: Didn't he record something?
The other three - Sorry, I have no idea who they are
I guess an ability to read music would be an asset for a conductor ..... ??
I think Katie Derham is a TV newsreader and Classic FM presenter. So she's well-qualified! |
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