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« Reply #2505 on: 10:46:37, 28-08-2007 » |
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Would Nielsen be a possible for next in the list?
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« Reply #2506 on: 10:49:41, 28-08-2007 » |
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Would Nielsen be a possible for next in the list?
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« Reply #2507 on: 10:59:41, 28-08-2007 » |
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Well, I would certainly stay in Scandinavia - Sibelius, then Rautavaara, then maybe move to the UK for Vaughan Williams, hop over the Atlantic for William Schuman and then back to the UK for Rubbra...  |
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« Reply #2508 on: 11:04:13, 28-08-2007 » |
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Mmmm, hadn't thought about Rautavaara as I suppose that situation could change in the future! (Going along the lines of Glazunov myself). Couldn't get much further in the sequence!
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« Reply #2509 on: 11:07:32, 28-08-2007 » |
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I got a bit stuck after Segerstam |
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« Reply #2510 on: 11:08:28, 28-08-2007 » |
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I got a bit stuck after Segerstam most people get stuck behind him...  |
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« Reply #2511 on: 13:06:20, 28-08-2007 » |
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I have a quiz (feel free to continue when the other one has finished):
What links:
Liszt's Symphonic Poems (but not nos.4 "Mazeppa" or 13 - "From the Cradle to the Grave"), Schumann's La Contrabadista and Berlioz's Dance of the Slyphs?
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« Reply #2512 on: 13:11:17, 28-08-2007 » |
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« Reply #2513 on: 08:45:01, 29-08-2007 » |
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Liszt's Symphonic Poems (but not nos.4 "Mazeppa" or 13 - "From the Cradle to the Grave"), Schumann's La Contrabandista and Berlioz's Dance of the Sylphs?
Is it to do with transcriptions? The Polish pianist/composer Carl Tausig transcribed some of Liszt's Symphonic Poems ( Les Préludes, Tasso, Hamlet & Orpheus are the ones I've located online) as well as Schumann's La Contrabandista and Berlioz's Dance of the Sylphs ( Gnomenchor und Sylphentanz). Tausig was a devoted follower of Wagner and apparently helped formulated the plan for raising 300,000 thaler for building the Bayreuth Theatre. How good are the Tausig Liszt transcriptions, Jonathan, and did Liszt (the great transcriber) ever 'do' any of his symphonic poems? And for those of you yet to figure out what roslynmuse twigged long ago...the previous 'connection' was linked to the number of symphonies composed, hence the sequence being important: 1. Bizet 2. Gounod 3. Rachmaninov 4. Brahms 5. Mendelssohn 6. Nielsen etc |
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« Reply #2514 on: 18:37:01, 29-08-2007 » |
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Correct IGI - the link was Tausig (note to self, must try harder)!
Tausig was a slightly mad character, he used to practise with a loaded pistol besides him in case he was interrupted (I can sympathise with that!) but he had an unfortunate habit of writing his transcriptions in a way that is not very easy on the fingers (unlike Liszt, who, if you follow the fingering is do-able). Tausig asks for huge stretches and enrmous leaps as if they were easy! IMSLP has several scores of his including the piece I am working on at the moment - Das Geisterschiff (Op.1). I feel if he hadn't died of cholera at 29, he would have altered the course of piano playing history. There are very few recordings as well, due to the technical difficulty. I'll start a new thread somewhere about him later and post my article that I wrote about 5 years ago which includes a discography - I doubt anything else has been recorded since I wrote it! (Except Oleg Marshev's Tasso on Danacord which I have but haven't heard yet).
Liszt seems to have usually let pupils transcribe the Symphonic Poems - although he did manually alter several so they can be considered to be by him. They have all been recorded by Leslie Howard in his Hyperion set. The ones he amended are Mazeppa, Orpheus, Hungaria, Festklinge and Les Preludes (originally transcribed by Ludwig Stark (Festklinge), Theodor Forchhammer (Mazeppa, he also transcribed most of the others as well), Fredrich Spiro (Orpheus & Hungaria) and Karl Klauser (Les Preludes)). Also, August Stradal arranged them all for piano butthey've never been recorded (they are also really difficult!) Lastly, Liszt himself arranged From the Cradle to the Grave himself with no intereferance from anyone!
Hope this helps...
Addendum - Tausig article now posted in the Romantic Era section of the Musical appreciation board...
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« Reply #2515 on: 20:03:46, 29-08-2007 » |
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Thanks for that, Jonathan. I keep meaning to explore some of the Leslie Howard discs, but it's difficult to know where to start, and now that Naxos have embarked on a complete cycle too...
Anyway, time for a new puzzle - quite a straightforward one, I think:
Weill
Quilter
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Richard Strauss
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« Reply #2516 on: 20:18:38, 29-08-2007 » |
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IGI,
Personally, I would start with the better known pieces, e.g. the Transcendental Studies (Howard on Hyperion is better than Jando on Naxos in these, although Jando is very, very good in the last 4). For the rarer pieces, Howard is the only person to have recorded them at the moment! The Naxos series is patchy, some CDs are excellent (vols. 6, 7, 10 - 14, 16, 17, 20, 25 and all the Scherbakov Beethoven symphony transcriptions) but I really don't like some of the others (this is all IMHO, of course). PM me if you want more information!
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« Reply #2517 on: 20:23:13, 29-08-2007 » |
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IGI,
Personally, I would start with the better known pieces, e.g. the Transcendental Studies (Howard on Hyperion is better than Jando on Naxos in these, although Jando is very, very good in the last 4). For the rarer pieces, Howard is the only person to have recorded them at the moment! The Naxos series is patchy, some CDs are excellent (vols. 6, 7, 10 - 14, 16, 17, 20, 25 and all the Scherbakov Beethoven symphony transcriptions) but I really don't like some of the others (this is all IMHO, of course). PM me if you want more information!
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« Reply #2518 on: 20:23:50, 29-08-2007 » |
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I think it's time for me to read the Liszt thread properly! (and ask a few questions too) |
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« Reply #2519 on: 21:46:59, 29-08-2007 » |
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IGI, after seeing your cardinal colours at the Mahler prom, I'm shocked that there is a weakness of any kind in your cruel and unusual armoury!  |
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