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perfect wagnerite
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« Reply #3870 on: 23:28:15, 02-02-2008 »
Both Offenbach and Copland were in their different ways regarded as politically suspect (Offenbach during the Franco-Prussian war because of his German origins, Copland during the McCarthy era).  Tartini was threatened with prosecution, and Caccini was involved in political intrigue in the Medici court ....

Anything there?
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« Reply #3871 on: 08:35:13, 03-02-2008 »
That's an intriguing link, PW, but not the rather more mundane one I'm after.

I think a clue may be in order. It would be an impossibility to extend this list in one direction, and probably an act of guesswork to extend it in the other (at least for anyone relatively well known).
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« Reply #3872 on: 10:41:51, 03-02-2008 »
Mmmmm, this all points to significant dates, perhaps?

Years of death offer some sort of sequence:

Copland 1990
Offenbach 1880
Tartini 1770

I can't pin down a Caccini 1660 death, sadly.
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« Reply #3873 on: 11:07:15, 03-02-2008 »
Quote from: Il Grande Inquisitor on 10:41:51, 03-02-2008
I can't pin down a Caccini 1660 death, sadly.

That's because, dumbass that I am, I was looking at the gifted Italian soprano, Settimia Caccini, rather than the composer, IGI. Sorry!
Oh, the shame. You got it, anyway!!  Cheesy Smiley Smiley
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Il Grande Inquisitor
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« Reply #3874 on: 11:14:24, 03-02-2008 »
Hoorah! Never mind, martle....Settimia will do just fine!

The only possible 1550 connection I could find was Giovan (presumably Giovanni) Tommaso di Maio who died ca.1550.
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« Reply #3875 on: 11:16:42, 03-02-2008 »
And I was looking for a devilish connection too
Tartini - Devil's trill
Copland - Devil's in the kitchen (used in the Hoedown from Rodeo)
Offenbach - er Tales of Hoffmann
+ just beginning to get somewhere with Caccini when . . .
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« Reply #3876 on: 17:01:00, 03-02-2008 »
Hope you dont mind me putting another one in IGI.

Herbert Howells
Vivaldi
Pergolesi
Alessandro Scarlatti
Syzmanowski
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« Reply #3877 on: 18:59:49, 03-02-2008 »
They all wrote a Stabat Mater
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« Reply #3878 on: 19:04:17, 03-02-2008 »
Quote from: autoharp on 18:59:49, 03-02-2008
They all wrote a Stabat Mater

But they lived up to hundreds of years apart. How could they have got together to write one? Wink
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« Reply #3879 on: 19:05:10, 03-02-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 19:04:17, 03-02-2008
Quote from: autoharp on 18:59:49, 03-02-2008
They all wrote a Stabat Mater

But they lived up to hundreds of years apart. How could they have got together to write one. Wink

Time capsules.
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« Reply #3880 on: 19:39:11, 03-02-2008 »
Chain letter with slow delivery times?


(bbm, I can't think of a better suggestion than autoharp's at the moment.  Sad)
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« Reply #3881 on: 19:39:51, 03-02-2008 »
Each new Stabat Mater is just a new arrangement of previous ones  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3882 on: 20:12:26, 03-02-2008 »
Quote from: martle on 19:05:10, 03-02-2008
Time capsules.


                 
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« Reply #3883 on: 22:07:24, 03-02-2008 »
Yes thats right. They all got in touch with Dr Who and had a Stabat Mater Conference.
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« Reply #3884 on: 22:45:25, 03-02-2008 »
Here's a new quartet to be going on with...

Liszt
Johann Strauss II
Berlioz
Schumann
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