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« Reply #4995 on: 23:32:36, 14-08-2008 »

Well, if I've interpreted tf's hints correctly, we're seeking op.39 works where the number of pieces which make up that opus number corresponds with his initial list, so Chopin's op.39 is just one piece, Beethoven's op.39 are two Preludes, Mendelssohn's op.39 consist of Three Motets for female choir and organ etc. Bricht's op.39 is his 7th Piano Sonata, but only consists of one actual piece (I suspect).  Schumann's op.39, Liederkreis, consists of 12 songs and is an alternative to the Alkan.

Yes.  Embarrassed
Leapt in with only half brain engaged.
Hope that I've clawed googled back some redemption with Reger.
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« Reply #4996 on: 23:33:14, 14-08-2008 »

Aha!

7. IcanhazMaxReger?

Almost. His op.38 is Seven Songs for Male Chorus*, whereas his op.39 is Three songs for 6-part Choir.

*If my sources are to be believed.
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« Reply #4997 on: 23:39:34, 14-08-2008 »

So Tchaik comes in at No. 24, with his Album for the Young, Op. 39 (24 pieces)
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« Reply #4998 on: 23:40:55, 14-08-2008 »

So Tchaik comes in at No. 24, with his Album for the Young, Op. 39 (24 pieces)

Yep, along with Kabelevsky's Twenty-Four Easy Pieces, op.39.
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« Reply #4999 on: 23:41:44, 14-08-2008 »

Don't see any reason why they shouldn't be believed...
Just checked Grove and you are absolutely correct.
That doesn't explain this though...
Bother. This is vexing. Trust me to trust google.
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« Reply #5000 on: 23:46:24, 14-08-2008 »

OK. This is where I give up.
With César Cui?
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« Reply #5001 on: 23:48:57, 14-08-2008 »

Very good, hh - I love how one source describes it at Six/Seven Miniatures...nothing like hedging your bets! (Ashamed I don't know much Cui)

I don't think we've had the Scriabin Four Preludes or Fauré Four Songs yet.

So, a round-up of op.39 compositions collected thus far...

1. Frederic Chopin - Scherzo No. 3 in C-sharp minor
2. Ludwig van Beethoven - Two Preludes through all twelve major keys for piano
3. Felix Mendelssohn - Three Motets for female choir and organ
4. Aleksandr Scriabin - Four Preludes or Gabriel Fauré - Four Songs
5. Edward Elgar – Pomp & Circumstance Marches
6. Fernando Sor - 6 Waltzes
7. César Cui - Seven Miniatures
8. Reinhold Glière - Eight Duets for violin and cello
9. Sergei Rachmaninov - 9 Études-Tableaux, op.39
10. Flor Peeters - Tien choralen for organ
11. David Popper - Dance of the Elves, for cello and piano
12. Charles Alkan – 12 Études or Robert Schumann – Liederkreis

16. Johannes Brahms - Sixteen Waltzes, op.39 for piano four-hands
24. Pyotr Tchaikovsky - Album for the Young; Dmitri Kabalevsky – 24 Easy Pieces

I think we deserve a few as we've just passed 5,000 posts here!!!
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« Reply #5002 on: 00:14:12, 15-08-2008 »

I've been trying to find tf's Mana-Zucca work to no avail (14).
Is it In Youngsterland: Fourteen little songs for little singers?
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« Reply #5003 on: 00:41:43, 15-08-2008 »

how about we stick with the board game theme and see if we can find a musical connection for everywhere on a Monopoly board?

Well we got some way with this, but not all the way.

The roads are as follows:
Old Kent Road (Chevalier, Knocked them in the Old Kent Road; Ruth)
Whitechapel
The Angel Islington (Springsteen, The Angel; HtoHe)
Euston Road
Pentonville Road (Babyshambles, Pentonville; Ruth)
Pall Mall (Sullivan, Night Has Spread Her Pall Once More; IGI)
Whitehall (Haydn Wood, London Landmarks Suite March: the Horseguards, Whitehall; IGI)
Northumberland Avenue (Tickell, Northumberland Air; Andy)
Bow Street (Birtwistle, Bow Down; Oz)
Marlborough Street (Grainger, The Duke of Marlborough Fanfare; IGI)
Vine Street (Pärt, I am the true vine; IGI)
The Strand (Grainger, Handel in the Strand; Don B)
Fleet Street (Sondheim, Sweeney Todd: the Demon Barber of Fleet Street; LadyDHS)
Trafalgar Square (Gurney, The Night of Trafalgar; IGI)
Leicester Square (Jethro Tull, Jeffrey Goes To Leicester Square; Andy)
Coventry Street (Leighton, Coventry Carol; IGI)
Piccadilly (Satie, La Piccadilly; martle)
Regent Street (Davies, Regent Street Rag; Anty)
Oxford Street (Vaughan Williams, An Oxford Elegy/Coates, Oxford Street; Ruth)
Bond Street (Bowie, Maid of Bond Street; HtoHe)
Park Lane
Mayfair (Coates, Meadow to Mayfair Suite; Ron)

The four stations are:
Kings Cross Station (Pet Shop Boys, King's Cross; Anty)
Marylebone Station (Berg, New Songs Sung...At Marylebone; hh)
Fenchurch Street Station
Liverpool Street Station (Donizetti, Emilia di Liverpool; Ron)

The utilities are:
Electric company (Reich, Electric Counterpoint; IGI)
Water Works (Handel, Water Music; Ruth)

Not forgetting:
Community Chest
Chance (Strauss, Frisch Gewagt; IGI)
Jail (Ibert, The Ballad of Reading Jail; Ruth)
Go to Jail (Lloyd-Webber, Go, Go, Go, Joseph!; Ron)
Free Parking
Income Tax (Harrison, Taxman; Anty)
Super Tax
GO! (Viñao, Go; richard)

every time I think of something - usually a pop song - that's a likely match

This might help with those connections...
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« Reply #5004 on: 00:57:30, 15-08-2008 »

Donizetti's Emilia di Liverpool will give us one station.
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« Reply #5005 on: 01:47:15, 15-08-2008 »

It occurs to me that it might amuse me (and who knows who else) if we also keep track of the first suggestion for each square.
IGI's quite close to being able to build hotels on the orange squares. Can he produce a Bow Street piece to seal the deal? Ruth is just as close with just Whitechapel eluding her.
This is dangerously close to sliding into such a different game it might be sensible to remove it to a new thread but then again, the novelty may already be wearing off... Thoughts?
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« Reply #5006 on: 01:51:37, 15-08-2008 »

11. David Popper - Dance of the Elves, for cello and piano
The reason I thought people might be amused is that David Popper's piece in German is called Elfentanz, which sounds like a really bad German for Eleven dances.

But yes, y'all did get it. I hope it was worth it! Congrats to IGI for crossing the finish line first.

Mana Zucca did indeed write 14 little songs, op. 39 - and they can be found on Google Books. Nice cover.
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« Reply #5007 on: 08:44:57, 15-08-2008 »

Rather obscure, but George Berg (?1730s-1775) published a book (of his own songs, I think) called New Songs Sung...At Marylebone in around 1765.
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« Reply #5008 on: 09:28:57, 15-08-2008 »

Harrison Birtwistle: Bow Down Wink
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« Reply #5009 on: 09:39:34, 15-08-2008 »

So if any of the composers here are approaching your Op.39, you know your duty.

Thirteen choral pentimenti on  '... x is an unknown unknown ... neither is y'.
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