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« Reply #5445 on: 10:01:54, 23-10-2008 » |
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Liszt's Totentanz?
(I'm probably missing the point).
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« Reply #5446 on: 10:08:24, 23-10-2008 » |
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Oh yes, Don Quick-Oats. Shows you how well I keep up with Strauss.
I'm not a fan of Strauss's Synthetic Pomes. Which is why I have total recall of the things, and know exactly what he's doing 25 minutes and 7 seconds in the Rudolf Kempe recording of the Alpine Thingummy up an Alp. With a goat. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sXLkVqGTy3U |
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« Reply #5447 on: 10:41:24, 23-10-2008 » |
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Ok, is it Liszt's Annees de Pelerinage?
Strauss's Alpine Symphony has a waterfall in it (Au bord d'un source), Beethoven 6th has a storm in it (Orage in Annees) and then, my reasoning breaks down erm...
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« Reply #5448 on: 12:19:01, 23-10-2008 » |
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A quick update:
It's not Annees de Pelerinage. Or Totentanz
Strauss' Alpine Symphony is the right work, but nobody so far has got the right section.
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« Reply #5449 on: 21:58:42, 23-10-2008 » |
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Strauss - 'Apparition' from The Alpine Symphony?
Beethoven - 'Eroica'?
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« Reply #5450 on: 21:44:31, 24-10-2008 » |
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Strauss - 'Apparition' from The Alpine Symphony?
Beetohven - 'Eroica'?
Eroica is correct! ... but not apparition, I'm afraid (although the concept isn't that far away) Tchaikovsky opera - MazeppaBerlioz Dance - Menuet des FolletsStrauss section from symphonic poem - Beethoven symphony - EroicaLegendary scene set by Weber and Schoenberg - |
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« Reply #5451 on: 21:46:55, 24-10-2008 » |
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In that case it's Liszt's Transcendental Etudes (1851 version)
So in the Richard Strauss it wuld be Vision and the Weber and Schoenberg Paysage (a guess...)
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« Reply #5452 on: 22:27:07, 24-10-2008 » |
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In that case it's Liszt's Transcendental Etudes (1851 version)
So in the Richard Strauss it wuld be Vision and the Weber and Schoenberg Paysage (a guess...)
Is the right answer!!... except that the Weber and Schoenberg isn't Paysage. It's related to both the last section of Gurrelieder and the apparition when Samiel casts the sixth bullet in the Wolf's Glen scene. Tchaikovsky opera - Mazeppa Berlioz Dance - Menuet des Follets Strauss section from symphonic poem - Vision Beethoven symphony - Eroica Legendary scene set by Weber and Schoenberg - |
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« Reply #5453 on: 22:44:06, 24-10-2008 » |
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« Reply #5454 on: 22:48:07, 24-10-2008 » |
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Wilde Jagd!
Absolutely right! So, the final line-up: Tchaikovsky opera - MazeppaBerlioz Dance - Menuet des FolletsStrauss section from symphonic poem - VisionBeethoven symphony - EroicaLegendary scene set by Weber and Schoenberg - Wilde JagdThe mystery work: Liszt's Transcendental Etudes (I happened to look at the track listings on my copy of the Arrau disc last weekend and thought, what a good subject for a quiz  ) |
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« Reply #5455 on: 22:35:27, 25-10-2008 » |
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Something for the (rest of) the weekend;
These are thematically connected. There is a ‘key’ work, written in 1924 (by a fifth composer), which brings them all together…
Kurt Weill
Haydn
John Adams
Offenbach
I have a couple of subs on the sideline, scratching their groins and eating half a banana.
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« Reply #5456 on: 22:49:10, 25-10-2008 » |
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I have a couple of subs on the sideline, scratching their groins and eating half a banana.
Do please refrain from bringing them out until they've straightened themselves up a bit! Is the 1924 work Rhapsody in Blue? |
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« Reply #5457 on: 22:51:37, 25-10-2008 » |
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I was all limbered up to suggest that the 'key' work could be Schoenberg's Harmonielehre with the obvious candidate from Adams, and possibly the Harmoniemesse of Haydn, but then I actually looked it up and saw that it was published in 1911 originally. So I sulked instead.
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« Reply #5458 on: 22:55:18, 25-10-2008 » |
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I have a couple of subs on the sideline, scratching their groins and eating half a banana.
Do please refrain from bringing them out until they've straightened themselves up a bit! Is the 1924 work Rhapsody in Blue? I was wondering whether the mystery work might be Milhaud's La Creation du Monde - which, like Haydn's Creation, contains a description of chaos, with the John Adams link being Light Over Water: The Genesis of Music. But I've a feeling the year may be wrong.
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« Reply #5459 on: 22:57:00, 25-10-2008 » |
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Is the 1924 work Rhapsody in Blue?
I couldn't possibly comment until you've had a proper stab, turfsky. Come now. What would IGI say? Edit on reading last post: Ditto, hh. <grim look> Edit, again: I mean PW, not hh!  |
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