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« Reply #225 on: 12:45:48, 09-07-2007 » |
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topic called Friday 29th June ... especially for smokers. Now expanded to include plans for meeting tonight.
(the smoking bit is now no longer the quintessence of the evening - actually a bit of moral support for a giving-up smoker might be more in order  ) |
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« Reply #226 on: 12:46:51, 09-07-2007 » |
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and, from what I've read in this thread, I'm not alone in this ... Did anyone else say that? I would have thought Ian's done exactly the right thing - at least now if he doesn't succeed at giving up completely, he can revert to 10-15 a day rather than 40 a day. I had, on a couple of occasions, tried to cut down on the cigarettes. Cutting down does not work.
Cheers, and good luck in your efforts.
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #227 on: 12:50:43, 09-07-2007 » |
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With respect to cutting down: anyone who is or has been a heavy smoker will know how much one comes to smoke 'by default', almost feeling uneasy if there isn't a cigarette between one's hands. So the period between cigarettes becomes essentially a temporary hiatus, it's the 'norm' to be smoking. Overcoming that is in itself a big step - having a few cigarettes over the course of the day, rather than 'always smoking' is a major difference. If I could get to the stage where, say, I only ever wanted a cigarette when out with friends, or after a nice meal, or simply in the evening, that itself would be an achievement (whether or not it leads to going total cold turkey). It's all about the difference between wanting (or very occasionally wanting) and needing.
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« Reply #228 on: 13:13:36, 09-07-2007 » |
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I think you're right, Ian. I used to smoke very little - one or two most days, quite a bit more than that if I was out in a bar or club, but also could (and often did) go for several days without smoking at all, without even having to try. Now I seem to have got into the habit of not being able to walk anywhere without lighting a cigarette - it passes the time, especially on the 10-minute walk from the station to my house. Also, I never used to smoke before the evening, but now I've started smoking if I walk down to the cafe for lunch, and even sometimes at home when I have a tea break in the afternoon. I still only smoke around 5 a day max, but I no longer seem to have the days when I don't smoke at all. It might be time to exert some willpower, I think.  |
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« Reply #229 on: 17:47:31, 09-07-2007 » |
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I was like that for awhile, t_i_n. But the occasional cigarette out w/ friends became a few a day, and a few a day became 10 a day, and then 10 a day became 15, so, after a failed attempt to cut back, I stopped altogether a few yrs ago. But for whatever reason, smoking became associated w/ all sorts of situations and emotional states, and so for the last year or so, every time I'm a bit down, I end up smoking again (and often go through the same progression, starting off just as a casual thing and ending up at a pack-every-other-day pace), or if I'm out at a bar (there are still a few months b/f the smoking ban kicks in here in Chicago), I end up smoking, and one becomes 5, and 5 becomes "well maybe I'll buy a pack on the way home," and then I have to go through the whole damn quitting process over again, even as a pretty light (or at least light-ish) smoker.
Agh.
Anyhow, all kudos to Ian. Having known him for years now, I know just how big a role smoking plays in his life, and it really is immensely laudable that he's making the effort to quit.
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« Reply #230 on: 22:31:44, 09-07-2007 » |
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Hear hear, Aaron - from one who's very much the same as he is. Er, was! That's how it goes.
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« Reply #231 on: 22:42:48, 09-07-2007 » |
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and, from what I've read in this thread, I'm not alone in this ... Did anyone else say that? I would have thought Ian's done exactly the right thing - at least now if he doesn't succeed at giving up completely, he can revert to 10-15 a day rather than 40 a day. I can't now remember who it was and dont; have time to trawl through the entire thread but I do seem to recall that someone somewhere mentioned that it was easier to pack it in in one go. I was not seeking to be unsympathetic to Ian in his endeavours by so saying - indeed, rather then reverse. What Ian has done so far is indeed laudable - as I have myself stated; I just thought that, since the best way I found to pack up was just to pack up there and then and that someone else mentioned something similar (unless my recollective faculties are totally fried), my mentioning the idea of cutting it off in one go was not inappropriate. Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #232 on: 22:48:19, 09-07-2007 » |
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It was me, Alistair. But that's me. Different strokes, I reckon...
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« Reply #233 on: 22:51:49, 09-07-2007 » |
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I just thought that, since the best way I found to pack up was just to pack up there and then How many a day did you used to smoke before so doing? |
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« Reply #234 on: 18:28:21, 12-07-2007 » |
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Latest progress report: have maintained a steady rate of just 10-15 max a day. Only had 5 today so far. And the incessant cravings are starting to diminish somewhat. In the meantime, cooking lots of steaks, eating nice biccies, drinking scotch in the evening, and so on! Not one cigarette has been smoked between the walls of this house since a week gone Sunday, nor will one.
The cheap ciggies from abroad are down to less than two packets now, so now is the time to make the next step. Next week, it has to be down to 10 max per day - never buying more than a packet of 10 in a day at the most. When out for a drink, must stay inside, not go into the outdoor gardens where smoking is permitted. Week after that aim to be down to just 5 a day, following week or one after, finally stop. Wish me luck!
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« Reply #235 on: 18:31:27, 12-07-2007 » |
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Brilliant Ian!
Good luck for this week
Tommo
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« Reply #236 on: 18:40:28, 12-07-2007 » |
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Ian, just dashing in to the forum (and out again), but wanted to say - well done, mate! I'm mightily impressed. And envious!
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« Reply #237 on: 18:41:58, 12-07-2007 » |
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« Reply #238 on: 18:56:50, 12-07-2007 » |
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One of my colleagues is trying to give up at the moment but she's really stressed out so, in addition to wearing a nicotine patch, she's taking nicotine pills and still smoking. I think maybe she's got the wrong end of the stick about giving up!
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Best regards,
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« Reply #239 on: 19:13:22, 12-07-2007 » |
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Hey martle, if he's successful, perhaps it will help you also...
Hey Ian, if you're successful, perhaps you will help martle also!
Hey Chafers, if these two gentlemen help each other you can start shutting your mouth!
Motivation all around!
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