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Author Topic: The London Underground: reflections  (Read 3439 times)
ahinton
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« Reply #90 on: 21:44:31, 01-09-2007 »

Gosh!
You have a tendency to use that word, on its own, from time to time; is it of Welsh origin, by chance?

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« Reply #91 on: 01:00:21, 02-09-2007 »

I hate the underground stations that are attached to mainline stations - Euston, Waterloo, Charing Cross.

Agreed. Charing Cross seems enormous underground (ever tried changing from the Northern to the Bakerloo?)
That's a case of two stations being merged into one, I think.  Similarly Holborn - the reason for the long walk between the two lines is because the Central line was originally a separate station, British Museum.

See Ian Pace's old tube map, in post #38, and my reply to it:

The stations that are now called Charing Cross and Embankment have gone through various metamorphoses, renamings and different joinings-up.  On Ian's map, Strand station is in place of what is now the Northern Line bit of Charing Cross.  To the left of it, Trafalgar Square station now forms the Bakerloo Line bit of Charing Cross.  The station called Charing Cross on Ian's map is now in fact Embankment (connecting Bakerloo, Northern, District and Circle lines).

No wonder it takes such a bloody long time to change between Bakerloo and Northern lines at Charing Cross - they are really two different stations.
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« Reply #92 on: 09:07:43, 02-09-2007 »

And some of us can remember the days when they were still separate, not to mention the long period of closure while they were being amalgamated. Aldwych station (a peak-hours only branch from Holborn on the Piccadilly Line) was directly under the old English Department seminar room in the Strand; the building is still there at ground level, with its distinctive semi-circular window on the first floor, and a fascia of glazed red-brown tiles. The original Jubilee Line plan intended to use this station; when the final route went south of the river instead, the station was eventually abandoned for public use, though it's still very much in demand for other purposes.
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« Reply #93 on: 11:30:55, 02-09-2007 »

Temple station got `disappeared` as well. Wasn`t it on the site of Embankment station
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« Reply #94 on: 11:45:38, 02-09-2007 »

Has Temple gone? Sic transit.... It was between Embankment (formerly Charing Cross) and Blackfriars on the Circle and District, Mort. (Closed on Sundays), as it used to say on the map.
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« Reply #95 on: 11:46:10, 02-09-2007 »

Temple station got `disappeared` as well. Wasn`t it on the site of Embankment station
Temple station was still there when I got off at it a couple of weeks ago!
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« Reply #96 on: 11:58:38, 02-09-2007 »

Cripes. For some reason I thought that it got swallowed up when they built the Jubilee Line. Roll Eyes Shows how long it`s been since I`ve used the District or Circles! Embarrassed
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« Reply #97 on: 08:25:00, 03-09-2007 »

The only thing I'm aware of in that area that got "swallowed up" during the building of the Jubilee Line was the Jubilee service at Charing Cross.  When it was originally built in the seventies it used to terminate there.  Then when they extended it to Stratford in 1999/2000, the extension ran straight through from Green Park to Westminster and the Charing Cross "end" became obsolete.  The line and platforms still exist there; they use it for emergency drills and as sidings.  Indeed one of my friends was once on a train whose driver and/or points operator send them the wrong way into the abandoned platforms, and they had to reverse back to Green Park  Shocked
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« Reply #98 on: 16:50:33, 03-09-2007 »

I almost always walk rather than use the Underground....too hot, noisy & stuffy for me.
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« Reply #99 on: 11:34:30, 04-09-2007 »

Ah, all those poor people coming out of last night's Prom to discover the gates at South Ken tightly shut.
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« Reply #100 on: 11:55:35, 04-09-2007 »

Ah, all those poor people coming out of last night's Prom to discover the gates at South Ken tightly shut.

Well, many of them will have had plenty of practice  of making alternative arrangements before the strike started, eruanto.  London Underground has closed down a major line every weekend that I've been down for the Proms.   First it was the Victoria line, which meant that when I changed to the District Line at Victoria it was almost impossible to get on a train because everybody had to use that line, which is dodgy at the best of times, to get into the system.  Then, last weekend, it was the District & Circle itself - huge fun if you're from out of town, going to a concert at the Cadogan Hall and suddenly discover that instead of getting a tube to within 100 yards of the door you have to do a crash course in the intricacies of the bus routes - or walk, as we did.

Hats off to the genius who thought the best time to close down major transport lines was at the height of the tourist season when the Proms coincides with the start of the football season at Stamford Bridge, Craven Cottage etc.
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« Reply #101 on: 13:06:33, 04-09-2007 »

Ah, all those poor people coming out of last night's Prom to discover the gates at South Ken tightly shut.

But the Piccadilly bit should still have been open - or did they close the whole station?
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« Reply #102 on: 13:16:01, 04-09-2007 »

The whole station was closed from what I could see. And the tunnel. But it didn't apply to me, so I didn't actually go looking for an opening.
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« Reply #103 on: 13:59:22, 04-09-2007 »

Ah, all those poor people coming out of last night's Prom to discover the gates at South Ken tightly shut.

But the Piccadilly bit should still have been open - or did they close the whole station?

Well, I'm back up north now; but didn't the whole system, or most of it, close down due to a strike?  They have a habit of starting such industrial action in the evening so people could have got to the Prom by tube and found the station closed when the concert finished.  There will have been notices informing people of this but, as I mentioned earlier, there always seem to be notices about some sort of closure at tube stations these days; so it wouldn't surprise me if some poor souls were caught out.
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« Reply #104 on: 14:08:29, 04-09-2007 »

Picadilly, Central and Jubilee (I think) were supposed to still be running.  Strike cut in at 18:00, but services were running down from 16:00, so those travelling by tube will probably have been aware before getting to the concert.  There were as it transpired also technical problems on the Picadilly which messed things up still further.
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