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« Reply #75 on: 13:12:28, 31-08-2007 »

After all my moans/phobias above, I must confess to being rather fascinated by the lost/ghost stations. When I used to live in St John`s Wood there was an `ex` station that been on the original route out of Baker Street. The signal box had become a private house and the station itself was a Chinese restaurant. Since moving to Highgate I discovered a `hidden` Highgate station. It was supposed to be one of the stations on the Northerns Heights route running to Alexandra Palace. Then the war happened and it was discontinued. There`s an interesting site at http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php with photographs of `lost` stations.

Anorak? Moi?  Grin


Mort, have you seen the book about abandoned underground stations?  We have it at home because we are interested in them as well!  Also, did you see the programme on BBC4 about Ghosts of the Underground a few months ago?  It was most spooky and a week later we went into London and had to go on it!

I like the Underground, as I grew up in Surrey, it was an easy trip into "town" via the local station and then you could travel round all day for a reasonable fare.  There also used to be a shell shop on Manette Street, right next door to Foyles so I used to go to both!
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« Reply #76 on: 13:34:49, 31-08-2007 »

Most hated station?  Well, I loathe Victoria - miles between lines, miles between the tube platforms and the mainline station, a labyrinth of possbile entrances and exits, and it's ALWAYS overcrowded - rude men in suits in the morning and evening rush hours, tourists all day, and drunken idiots in the evenings  Roll Eyes

Kings Cross and Bank are far more labyrinthine and sprawling, but there's just something about the crowds at Victoria that makes it frustrating and unpleasant to use.  Fortunately the quickest of all the exits - eastbound Circle Line onto the near side of the bus station - is the one I most frequently have to use.
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« Reply #77 on: 13:54:54, 31-08-2007 »

After all my moans/phobias above, I must confess to being rather fascinated by the lost/ghost stations. When I used to live in St John`s Wood there was an `ex` station that been on the original route out of Baker Street. The signal box had become a private house and the station itself was a Chinese restaurant. Since moving to Highgate I discovered a `hidden` Highgate station. It was supposed to be one of the stations on the Northerns Heights route running to Alexandra Palace. Then the war happened and it was discontinued. There`s an interesting site at http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php with photographs of `lost` stations.

Anorak? Moi?  Grin


Jonathan, what book is that? Sounds interesting.  Sadly, I can only get the basic 5 channels, I will fascinated to see what happens when the big switchover happens Roll Eyes

Mort, have you seen the book about abandoned underground stations?  We have it at home because we are interested in them as well!  Also, did you see the programme on BBC4 about Ghosts of the Underground a few months ago?  It was most spooky and a week later we went into London and had to go on it!

I like the Underground, as I grew up in Surrey, it was an easy trip into "town" via the local station and then you could travel round all day for a reasonable fare.  There also used to be a shell shop on Manette Street, right next door to Foyles so I used to go to both!
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« Reply #78 on: 13:59:36, 31-08-2007 »

Mort, your QUOTES!!!
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« Reply #79 on: 14:05:03, 31-08-2007 »

Another loathed station - Elephant and Castle.  For a station that's on a huge double roundabout, having only two entrances/exits (and therefore connecting easily with only two of about eight large banks of bus stops) is really inadequate.  And if you're on the wrong side of the station... the Bakerloo Line has an "easy" exit at one side, and the Northern Line has an "easy" exit at the other.  The arrangement of the underground passages is such that getting from one side to the other involves scrambling up and down several flights of stairs and along the platform of whichever line you weren't using in the first place.

Oh yes, and it's got lifts.  I hate stations with lifts.
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« Reply #80 on: 14:06:35, 31-08-2007 »

Mort, your QUOTES!!!

Cripes tinners, even by my standards that`s impressive!  How the hell did I manage that Huh Huh

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« Reply #81 on: 14:15:04, 31-08-2007 »

Mort,

Our local Tesco is doing a bargain Freeview box for a tenner: since it's a fairly little store I'm sure their bigger stores will have a similar offer. LIDL have their non-Sky satellite box available again for around £40 as well; it does mean getting an aerial erected (or doing the Ron thing and having a family roof-clamber), but it's one of the best purchases I've made in a long while. I'm not a huge box-watcher, but it's meant access to all the TV Proms (apart from the one I had no intention of watching Wink) and a vast amount of satellite radio. It brings in far more stations than I'd ever want to watch (though neither Channels Four or Five for some reason) and like Freeview, was a one-off buy with no subscription: probably not for you, but it might interest others here....

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« Reply #82 on: 17:24:37, 31-08-2007 »

I hate the underground stations that are attached to mainline stations - Euston, Waterloo, Charing Cross.

Agreed. Charing Cross seems enormous underground (ever tried changing from the Northern to the Bakerloo?) and Waterloo is a complete mystery to me. Despite many, many attempts, I've only once managed to emerge at the entrance on Waterloo Road on purpose (although I've found it several times by mistake).

I'm quite a fan of all the new Jubilee line extensions (and when I lived out east I would take the longer route that took me through them all  - particularly good when the line was new and not many people were using it. I'm such a nerd.  Embarrassed). Canary Wharf has the obvious wow factor but Westminster is my favourite. It's like descending into the the lair of an evil Bond villain.
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« Reply #83 on: 21:16:19, 31-08-2007 »

Most hated station?  Well, I loathe Victoria - miles between lines, miles between the tube platforms and the mainline station, a labyrinth of possbile entrances and exits, and it's ALWAYS overcrowded - rude men in suits in the morning and evening rush hours, tourists all day, and drunken idiots in the evenings  Roll Eyes

Agreed - Victoria is unspeakable.  I'm always impressed by the fact that when I walk through Victoria main-line station every morning (fortunately I work within walking distance of it) the entrance to the tube station is usually closed off due to overcrowding.

I hate the underground stations that are attached to mainline stations - Euston, Waterloo, Charing Cross.

Canary Wharf has the obvious wow factor but Westminster is my favourite. It's like descending into the the lair of an evil Bond villain.

I know what you mean, Tim.  And I've always thought that the stations on the Brussels metro look like the lair of an evil Bond villain who has fallen on hard times ....





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« Reply #84 on: 21:44:06, 31-08-2007 »

The second one looks a bit like San Francisco, PW. No Bond villains there though.
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« Reply #85 on: 22:45:23, 31-08-2007 »

I hate the underground stations that are attached to mainline stations - Euston, Waterloo, Charing Cross.

Agreed. Charing Cross seems enormous underground (ever tried changing from the Northern to the Bakerloo?)
That's a case of two stations being merged into one, I think.  Similarly Holborn - the reason for the long walk between the two lines is because the Central line was originally a separate station, British Museum.

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« Reply #86 on: 18:21:30, 01-09-2007 »

Jonathan, what book is that? Sounds interesting.  Sadly, I can only get the basic 5 channels, I will fascinated to see what happens when the big switchover happens Roll Eyes


Ho Mort, sorry to take so long to get back to you (it's been a long day!) - the book is called London's Disused Underground Stations and it's by J.E. Connor and published by Capital Transport.  I'm fairly sure we got it from Amazon so it should be readily available!
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« Reply #87 on: 18:54:16, 01-09-2007 »

an evil Bond villain.

er... no, never mind. Wink
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« Reply #88 on: 19:25:07, 01-09-2007 »

Ollie, what you need is a safe haven away from these solecists.
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« Reply #89 on: 19:31:29, 01-09-2007 »

Gosh!
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