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Great map, Ian. I notice it has the station that is now a Chinese restaurant. And Strand station. Sigh.
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« Reply #46 on: 22:52:37, 29-08-2007 » |
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Announcement by guard at Highbury station:
"Mind yer backs, arse an' all."
Could he have meant something to do with football, perhaps?
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« Reply #47 on: 23:31:17, 29-08-2007 » |
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Some really interesting stuff here and I also especially liked Ian's map.
The Central line gets quite countrified beyond Loughton.
I really wish I could have travelled all the way to Ongar before the last section of the line was closed. When was that I wonder ? Not that
long ago.
I understand that in the later years of the Ongar era there was effectively a shuttle service between Ongar and Epping. You couldnt go direct to Oxford St from Ongar.
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« Reply #48 on: 23:41:21, 29-08-2007 » |
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Edit: I've just spotted that of course Canada Water station was missing from the East London line in 1937 - was that only built with the rest of the Jubilee Line in the last couple of decades, I wonder? Also, Surrey Quays (as it is now) was called Surrey Docks. Yes, Canada Water station has only been there as long as the Jubileee Line Extension. Before this (and before the renaming of Surrey Docks to Surrey Quays, which was something to do with regenerating the area) some poet or other, whose identity escapes me, drew attention to the natural poetry of the East London Line with the following little ditty which just sings itself: "Shoreditch, Whitechapel, Shadwell, Wapping, Rotherhithe, Surrey Docks, New Cross Gate" It doesn't work now  |
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Ein süßer, heiliger Akkord von dir
Den Himmel beßrer Zeiten mir erschlossen,
Du holde Kunst, ich danke dir dafür!
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Great map, Ian. I notice it has the station that is now a Chinese restaurant. And Strand station. Sigh.
The stations that are now called Charing Cross and Embankment have gone through various metamorphoses, renamings and different joinings-up. On Ian's map, Strand station is in place of what is now the Northern Line bit of Charing Cross. To the left of it, Trafalgar Square station now forms the Bakerloo Line bit of Charing Cross. The station called Charing Cross on Ian's map is now in fact Embankment (connecting Bakerloo, Northern, District and Circle lines). No wonder it takes such a bloody long time to change between Bakerloo and Northern lines at Charing Cross - they are really two different stations. Yes, I'm a Tube geek too...  |
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Oft hat ein Seufzer, deiner Harf' entflossen,
Ein süßer, heiliger Akkord von dir
Den Himmel beßrer Zeiten mir erschlossen,
Du holde Kunst, ich danke dir dafür!
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Great map, Ian. I notice it has the station that is now a Chinese restaurant. And Strand station. Sigh.
The stations that are now called Charing Cross and Embankment have gone through various metamorphoses, renamings and different joinings-up. On Ian's map, Strand station is in place of what is now the Northern Line bit of Charing Cross. To the left of it, Trafalgar Square station now forms the Bakerloo Line bit of Charing Cross. The station called Charing Cross on Ian's map is now in fact Embankment (connecting Bakerloo, Northern, District and Circle lines). No wonder it takes such a bloody long time to change between Bakerloo and Northern lines at Charing Cross - they are really two different stations. Yes, I'm a Tube geek too... Ah, if only they had a miniature version thereof in Bath! - a thought to which I find myelf returning almost every time I get stuck in daytime traffic there. Of course it would take the city's local non-authority at least a couple of centuries to decide to develop one and at least as long again to actually build it under all those hills, but the thought of being able to go from Bailbrook East to Combe Down with just a stop or two in between, rather than having to struggle on the surface for almost an hour at the worst times of day, undoubtedly has its appeal. Ken Livingstone for Mayor of Bath? Well, there are some limits, I suppose, but... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #51 on: 01:28:58, 30-08-2007 » |
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About 25 years a go I went to a record fair in Wimbledon with some mates. Afterwards we had a few pints.... and later as we joyfully rode on an underground escalator I lost my footing at the bottom and my plastic carrier bag of records and I were thrown onto the floor, I can still see the black discs skating across the tiles..... This was during my early years collecting 78s, and yes, quite a few didn't survive the event  In the alcohol mist I recall on the inter-city back to Birmingham examining my bag of records and being so horrified at the losses that I gathered up all the broken shellac and threw them out the train window, tut tut. A few records did survive the trip  |
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« Reply #52 on: 01:36:35, 30-08-2007 » |
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Yes, the Epping-Ongar section was a shuttle, because it needed a 3-car train which was kept at Epping (remember the Aldwych shuttle?) Ian, there's a great book detailing the development of the Tube map in fabulously geeky detail...I nearly bought it in Borders in Leeds the other week  And I think the East London Line was originally a line which ran into either Fenchurch St or Liverpool St? |
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« Reply #53 on: 01:42:09, 30-08-2007 » |
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Ian, there's a great book detailing the development of the Tube map in fabulously geeky detail...I nearly bought it in Borders in Leeds the other week What's the name of the book? |
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« Reply #54 on: 11:12:43, 30-08-2007 » |
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especially the Metropolitan line in its Western parts (I gather it's particularly bumpy up there?), in fact hardly ever the Metropolitan line at all. What are they like?
Born and bred in Metro-land, so I know it well. Yes, it's bumpy, and the stations are miles apart. Once you get past Wembley Park it's more like a local branch line service than the Tube. Not a great deal to recommend it though unless you push on all the way to Chesham or somewhere like that when you are, essentially, in the countryside. I know parts of Betjeman's film are online, but I can't find them at the moment. |
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Ian, there's a great book detailing the development of the Tube map in fabulously geeky detail...I nearly bought it in Borders in Leeds the other week What's the name of the book? I'm not sure, but I think it was this. |
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« Reply #57 on: 23:38:34, 30-08-2007 » |
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Your least favourite stations please ?
Circle line trains from Embankment always dither around at Aldgate East after South Bank concerts.
A rather inhuman station, that one, devoid of personality, with none of the redeeming features of Goodge Street to name but one.
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« Reply #58 on: 23:46:05, 30-08-2007 » |
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Camden Town - awful, awful station. Really bleak.
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A rather inhuman station, that one, devoid of personality, with none of the redeeming features of Goodge Street to name but one. I'm interested to know more about your relationship to Goodge Street, as it seems something of a recurring leitmotive? |
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