TimR-J
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« Reply #15 on: 12:25:35, 29-08-2007 » |
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After all my moans/phobias above, I must confess to being rather fascinated by the lost/ghost stations. When I used to live in St John`s Wood there was an `ex` station that been on the original route out of Baker Street. The signal box had become a private house and the station itself was a Chinese restaurant. Since moving to Highgate I discovered a `hidden` Highgate station. It was supposed to be one of the stations on the Northerns Heights route running to Alexandra Palace. Then the war happened and it was discontinued. There`s an interesting site at http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php with photographs of `lost` stations. Anorak? Moi? It's a lovely walk that now, all the way home from Finsbury Park, practically without touching a road. Here's another link you might like Mort - http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/h/highgate/index.shtml - including a photo of how the old station used to look when it was in use! (Have you ever read Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, BTW? Lots of lost stations figure in that.)
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« Reply #16 on: 12:48:34, 29-08-2007 » |
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I try to avoid it now - too crowded, and some indefinable sense of danger. On my few visits to London I use taxis or buses, if I can find out where they are. When I did use it, I had an enormous affection for Baker Street, my local station, and Covent Garden, with its ancient creaky lifts. They can't be still there, can they?
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #17 on: 12:50:35, 29-08-2007 » |
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Other than being a lot cheaper, the big advantage of buses is that if there's a problem, you can get off...
You can indeed - either normally or at about 40 mph c/o Al Qaeda. Any public transport has its hazards nowadays.
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« Reply #18 on: 12:51:08, 29-08-2007 » |
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Whooo! thanks for that link. TimR. To my shame, I have never got around to doing that walk but I keep meaning to Those photographs were fascinating. That rather lovely little building with two chiimmneys is now an Estate Agents. They get everywhere
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Ruth Elleson
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« Reply #19 on: 13:04:03, 29-08-2007 » |
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Mary - The ancient creaky lifts certainly are still there at Covent Garden. Fortunately I hardly ever have cause to use them. I have the nice handy RV1 bus which takes me from just outside my office to just outside the Royal Opera House. Milly - I wasn't really talking about terrorist risk, I meant if there's a problem as happens rather more frequently, e.g. technical failure, antisocial behaviour, heavy traffic, or feeling unwell. To be honest I don't give the terrorist threat a second thought, other than being vigilant - it's just not worth it. If they blow me up they can do it while I'm going about my normal life being unconcerned, rather than being constantly paranoid. I'd have to use public transport regardless
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #20 on: 13:06:08, 29-08-2007 » |
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Milly - I wasn't really talking about terrorist risk, I know. I've just got a really sick sense of humour. Sorry. P.S. I never give it a thought either. I'll travel on anything, anytime anywhere.
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« Reply #21 on: 13:14:28, 29-08-2007 » |
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I always assumed that the reason Mornington Crescent was the station of choice for the ISIHAC game was its slightly idiosyncratic location on the network, in that the stations on either side of it are on both branches of the central section but MC is only on one...
I think you're almost certainly right about that. I still say I love buses. Besides anything else, they provide a tourist's eye view of the city. I have lived in tourist locations most of my life (Durham and York, before London) and I find that when you've lived there a long time you become blasé about the views and the history and all the things that tourists marvel at. Since I moved to Camberwell I often find myself of a night-time coming south over Westminster Bridge on the 12 or the 148, or over Waterloo Bridge on the 171, and the spectacular views remind me howe lucky I am to live in this wonderful place I LOATHE buses; I don't know why but, despite the obvious unpleasantness of travelling on the Underground in the busiest times - especially when it's already hot and humid on the streets - I'd opt for tube rather than bus any old day. The taxi is a far more pleasant option than either, though very much more expensive, especially for longish trips and frustratingly so during the busiest periods when the very thought of watching the meter creep ever upwards while stationary in traffic is more than enough in itself to persuade me tubewards. Best, Alistair
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« Reply #22 on: 13:27:18, 29-08-2007 » |
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Ah, taxis, they're great aren't they? They may be expensive and therefore an occasional luxury, but it's soooo much nicer to hop in a cab from Victoria after a late Prom and be home in ten minutes.
Having moved from somewhere to which a black cab from Central London would have cost £60 (I know - I did it on work expenses once after a particularly late night meeting a deadline) I LOVE the fact that I can now get home from Waterloo for £12 and Victoria for around £15. The expense is worth it for getting home safely, and into bed earlier.
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« Reply #23 on: 13:56:04, 29-08-2007 » |
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I LOATHE buses... So do I - the bloody things never seem to go where I expect... And the concept of the Queue seems to be one which is alien to most of the population of this benighted city
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« Reply #24 on: 14:02:55, 29-08-2007 » |
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I LOATHE buses... So do I - the bloody things never seem to go where I expect... And the concept of the Queue seems to be one which is alien to most of the population of this benighted city It is to me, too - the moment I am expected to queue for something, I feel suddenly as though my need of it has diminished. OK, I did "queue" for hours on the four occasions that Solti conducted the operas of the Ring cycle at ROH in the 1960s and have never regretted having done so, but it didn't feel at all like "queueing" as much as merely waiting... But while on the subject of taxis, it is a very strange peculiarity of the city in which I live (Bath) that most people who want a taxi just don't try to hail one like normal people do in London and elsewhere. It can be quite difficult doing this here, too, since the lights atop most local taxis are insufficiently clear, especially in sunny weather, so it's rarely possible to tell in advance whether or not an approaching taxi is for hire or already booked. I've long since gotten used to just sticking my hand out at any car with a "taxi" sign and hoping for the best. A few cab drivers around here have actual London taxis and their "for hire" lights are, of course, as clear as they are in London itself. Best, Alistair
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« Reply #25 on: 14:13:45, 29-08-2007 » |
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I used to use Warren Street station quite a bit, and I remember saying at the time that there always seemed to a dodgy characters hanging around the entrance. Several years later it emerged that it was a regular rendezvous point for spies How fascinating! Not London Underground, but back in the late '70's and early '80's I was a student in Ipswich, and my travels often took me past the Greyfriars complex; originally planned as a dynamic new shopping mall for the town, it failed miserably. While most commuters trotted quickly through the well-lit subways, I was endlessly intrigued by the static elevators and gigantic ramps that descended into stygean gloom where odd little shops struggled to survive, and odder characters apparently lurked. It was like exploring a Doctor Who set! Whenever I think of London Underground I feel a twinge of regret that I never saw the BBC dramatization of Neil Gaiman's surrealistic story themed around the names of the stations.
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« Reply #26 on: 14:48:56, 29-08-2007 » |
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Milly - I wasn't really talking about terrorist risk, I know. I've just got a really sick sense of humour. Sorry. P.S. I never give it a thought either. I'll travel on anything, anytime anywhere.
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TimR-J
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« Reply #27 on: 14:50:35, 29-08-2007 » |
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Whenever I think of London Underground I feel a twinge of regret that I never saw the BBC dramatization of Neil Gaiman's surrealistic story themed around the names of the stations. (Have you ever read Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, BTW? Lots of lost stations figure in that.)
ahem Currently available on DVD, and very good it is too - for those of a Doctor Who-ish persuasion.
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« Reply #28 on: 14:57:44, 29-08-2007 » |
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How fascinating! Not London Underground, but back in the late '70's and early '80's I was a student in Ipswich, and my travels often took me past the Greyfriars complex; originally planned as a dynamic new shopping mall for the town, it failed miserably. While most commuters trotted quickly through the well-lit subways, I was endlessly intrigued by the static elevators and gigantic ramps that descended into stygean gloom where odd little shops struggled to survive, and odder characters apparently lurked. It was like exploring a Doctor Who set! As a Suffolk boy, I have to ask - where on earth is/was this place?! My favourite tube announcement was when stuck on the Circle line somewhere between Tower Hill and Liverpool Street: the driver told us that the delay was 'due to too many trains on too little track'.
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« Reply #29 on: 15:31:06, 29-08-2007 » |
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I remember an announcement on a South-Eastern Train in the morning rush hour, while sitting stationary on the "fast line" near Platform 6 at London Bridge: "Ladies and Gentlemen, apologies for the delay. I appreciate that this is supposed to be the fast train, but apparently the signalman doesn't agree."
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