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Author Topic: Computers - Love Them or Hate Them?  (Read 11152 times)
Andy D
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« Reply #150 on: 10:50:35, 29-01-2008 »

Can't really tell what your prob is Mort but I suspect it is a Virgin one and nothing to do with Thunderbird

If you want to look at a set up guide for Thunderbird go to

http://opensourcearticles.com/articles/thunderbird_15/english/part_01

Best wishes
Nigel from Mumbai
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« Reply #151 on: 10:52:10, 29-01-2008 »

Cheers, Nige!  Cheesy  I`m onto it.
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Andy D
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« Reply #152 on: 11:05:07, 29-01-2008 »

I received an email from Tiscali on 14/12/07 which said:

"Your FREE broadband speed upgrade

Our top priority is always to bring you the best value packages, so we're delighted to let you know that we are increasing the speed of your package to up to 4Mb* superfast broadband at no extra cost to you.

You don't need to do anything, your price will remain the same and we'll upgrade you to the new speed in January. We'll also email you to let you know when this is complete."

I've received no email but my line speed has been very variable - it always used to be a constant 1.1 Mbps - and v early this morning it was very low so I ran a few speed tests getting 741.6 Kbps 691.7 Kbps 692.8 Kbps

So I raised a question with the Tiscali helpdesk saying, basically, do you call this an upgrade?

I've just got this reply from Nigel in Mumbai: "I understand that you received a letter regarding upgrade to 4 MB package free of cost. You are receiving a Broadband 1.1 MB Broadband speed.

I wish to inform that the letter you have received is a automated response. Tiscali do not provide 4 MB Broadband package. Please ignore that mail.

I have checked our records and found that there is no recent upgrade on your Broadband account."

Then he said if I wanted to upgrade I'd have to pay for it Shocked

However I now seem to be back to the steady 1.1 Mbps which I was getting before so he must have changed something. I don't intend to pay more and I'm quite happy with 1.1Mbps for £12-99.
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« Reply #153 on: 11:27:58, 29-01-2008 »

Andy, thanks for the Thunderbird link, Wonderfully clear. God bless `em. I checked it carefully and, yes, I had followed their instructions to the letter. Guess I will now have to brace myself to speak to Nigel. Heavy sigh. I am not looking forward to this Angry
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« Reply #154 on: 11:33:41, 29-01-2008 »

Companies look upon Broadband as an easy money-spinner, which is why they're falling over themselves to reel in as many punters as possible (though the money is usually made on the associated landline packages). What they fail to take into account is the complexity of the system and its interfaces. Sales teams have high targets and incentives for "giving away" (not "selling") as much as they can, but the back-up that they themselves have if (i.e. when) things go awry is usually paltry. There are so many hundreds - thousands - of variables that it's often all but impossible to know where a fault lies. The success of the package depends on the luck of the time it's initiated, basically.

Poor Mort, in her Norf Lunnon triangle - not Bermuda, nor even Bermondsey, but just as jinxed, it seems - must be fated to run into problems with anything technological: let's face it, even dustbins with wheels on are in Mortal peril Wink. Are you sure you're not a time traveller locked into the wrong century, Mistress Moderatrix?
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« Reply #155 on: 11:42:56, 29-01-2008 »

Are you sure you're not a time traveller locked into the wrong century, Mistress Moderatrix?

And do you think I can find the Doctor and his ruddy sonic screwdriver? Hah! Grin

Be still my beating heart! Virgin are going to call me back "between 12 and 6 today". Apparently the Helpline number that I called (and have called before) is for ntl and not Telewest which, apparently I am. News to me. Didn`t seem to make a difference before. Still, that gives me plenty of time to keep a beady eye on my Wheelie bin Cheesy
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« Reply #156 on: 12:14:13, 29-01-2008 »

Hi Mort,

I think I have worked out why you are having this trouble with Virgin Media.  I did not realise before you were cable. 

NTL took over Telewest (Blueyonder).  NTL/Telewest then acquired Virgin Mobile.  They then rebranded as Virgin Media.  That is why your email address is a blueyonder.co.uk one and not a virgin.net like mine.

In other words, you may think you are with virgin.net but in fact as you are cable you are now with blueyonder (as was) under the NTL umbrella with a different name.  Both of those companies have the worst customer care records of all time and presumably, although re-branded Virgin Media they are still using their same servers, call centres (of which they only have 7 now as opposed to the 13 they used to) etc.

When you said about webmail being down I checked and yes, it was for blueyonder/ntl, plus there were internet and tv outages whereas I, at virgin.net status page, only ever have green traffic lights.

In other words – that is why you are not getting the excellent service from Virgin that I am – because NTL/Telewest is providing the cable service.

Hope that makes sense!!  Personally I think it is dishonest practice for someone signing up to Virgin on the basis of recommendation of reliability to find they are in reality hived off elsewhere.
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« Reply #157 on: 12:19:51, 29-01-2008 »

Ants, if that is the case then my response is not printable before the watershed!! Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

Unfortunately it makes sense. That would explain the "Will I be able to get a Virgin webmail address?" question on the Virgin home page Angry
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« Reply #158 on: 12:25:07, 29-01-2008 »

Mort,

I have spent this morning looking up the history of the various mergers.   Sad

I would have twigged before but I didn't know you were cable, explains why your services are down and not mine doesn't it?

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« Reply #159 on: 12:36:06, 29-01-2008 »

Gosh, I am so teed off now I could almost consider going back to BT. And that`s saying something!
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« Reply #160 on: 12:58:32, 29-01-2008 »

Have a read of this Mort

http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/362087/ntl-to-rebrand-as-virgin-media.html

A cynical ploy by NTL to trade on Virgin's excellent name :-(
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« Reply #161 on: 13:08:24, 29-01-2008 »

Right, now I`m angry!
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« Reply #162 on: 13:26:32, 29-01-2008 »

"From frying-panne to fyre our Mort hath flowne."

Branson: 'Tis Nowt To Do Wi' Me, Act 2, sc.4.
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« Reply #163 on: 13:58:26, 29-01-2008 »

Nigel has now `phoned me and assured me, repeatedly, that my problems at the moment are to do with, er, the problems at the moment. He has no idea when these problems may be resolved and "I assure you ma`m, nothing that you do will be working at this moment". I pointed out that, actually, these problems had started ever since I signed up with them and his response was  an  a-w-f-u-l-l-y  l-o-n-g  s-i-l-e-n-c-e. Then he retrieved his script from under the desk and repeated it.  I  pointed out that my experience of their Customer Service had been less than satisfactory and it was unreasonable of Virgin Media to expect customers to pay for a service that they were not receiving.  Repeat of silence. 

Mort: "So you unable to help me with this?"

Nigel:  "Yes ma`m".

Mort:  "And you have no idea when this problem will be resolved?".

Nige:  "No, ma`m".

Mort:  "Thank you".  Replaces the receiver and lights a cigarette.

Just another day at the Call Centre then. 

I really do have to find another ISP and I am thinking about BT, although they got Milly into a bit of a pickle if I remember rightly.  A girl can only take so many frying pannes and fyres .....

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« Reply #164 on: 22:58:13, 29-01-2008 »

I think I might have replaced the cigarette and lit the receiver. For starters.
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