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« Reply #1080 on: 00:24:25, 07-03-2008 » |
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it appears he's published a 7th in 2006 So he has (according to Wikipedia). That's very naughty! He said the 6th was the last, and I didn't realise he'd gone back on his word. Richard's snatch of the 4th must be the Chandos recording, yes; there is no other. Don't buy the 6th, though, IGI! (You may find it lands on your doorstep quite soon ...  ) |
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« Reply #1081 on: 00:27:05, 07-03-2008 » |
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Hurrah! Is that the movement titled Indian Rose Garden? I don't know any of Nørgård's music, though your clue about having written six symphonies so far led me to him almost straight away, although it appears he's published a 7th in 2006. I recall there being a bit of a hoohah at TOP about the 6th's premiere at the Proms a few years back. The clip in 272 immediately struck me as a quite beautiful soundworld, so I'll have to add it to my list... I assume it's the Chandos recording?
Yes, it's the first movement, and it's the Chandos recording. Sorry about the 7th symphony, I didn't know about it, must have a chance to hear that some time. Time_is_now is something of a Nørgård expert I believe. I've listened to his 3rd (twice), 4th (which I know quite well) and 5th in the last couple of days, finding the music a fascinating world to wander through. |
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« Reply #1082 on: 00:31:37, 07-03-2008 » |
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must be the Chandos recording, yes; there is no other. There used to be, though. I got to know the work through a recording conducted by Jorma Panula, which was combined with the 2nd. |
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« Reply #1083 on: 00:40:21, 07-03-2008 » |
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There used to be, though. I got to know the work through a recording conducted by Jorma Panula, which was combined with the 2nd.
Oh. Turns out my supposed expertise is of distinctly recent vintage. (Or actually not so recent, since I didn't know about this 7th symphony either.) I take it when you say 'combined' you mean 'coupled', and not something Cagey.  |
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« Reply #1084 on: 00:43:38, 07-03-2008 » |
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Coupled, yes. (But most of the 2nd is so quiet it wouldn't matter that much either way.)
Terrains vagues seems to be at least as much a symphony as his symphonies, don't you think? I wonder why he didn't call it one.
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« Reply #1085 on: 00:53:05, 07-03-2008 » |
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Richard's snatch of the 4th must be the Chandos recording, yes; there is no other. Don't buy the 6th, though, IGI! (You may find it lands on your doorstep quite soon ... ) Thanks, tinners. I've just ordered the disc of the 4th and 5th and look forward to exploring Nørgård's music!  |
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« Reply #1086 on: 01:34:32, 07-03-2008 » |
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Fear not, there are countless clues out there for 243!!
Not unless there's a ballet of Amahl and the Night Visitors and someone made a suite from it.  Oh there is and they did!  Snatch 243 Menotti: The Concert Suite from the Ballet of Amahl and the Night Visitors Not Menotti, GG, but an earlier composer of 'blockbuster' sounding scores you could be 'pining' to hear. |
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« Reply #1087 on: 01:41:48, 07-03-2008 » |
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Terrains vagues seems to be at least as much a symphony as his symphonies, don't you think? I wonder why he didn't call it one. Don't all symphonists have to have at least one they didn't name as such? It seems to be an unspoken rule (from Mahler onwards, at least). Have you heard the 2nd Violin Concerto (aka 'Borderlines'), Richard? That is a strange thing. I do believe it may have been handed to you by a man in a scarf in a pub once, possibly coupled with a symphony by Sibelius which I seem to recall provoked the comment 'I do know Sibelius's 5th Symphony, thank you very much', which in turn provoked the response 'Not played like this you don't'. Or I may have imagined that whole episode. Do try and hear 'Borderlines', anyway. I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on it. |
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« Reply #1088 on: 02:10:42, 07-03-2008 » |
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No, Mr Garnett, not Amahl, which we always thought was an opera rather than a ballet!
So did we. But according to Mr Google there seems to be a balletic version called 'The Twelfth Night Visitors'. My thanks to Mr. Grande and my apologies to Mr. Garnett. Not at all, Daniel. I can take it.  |
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« Reply #1089 on: 08:13:16, 07-03-2008 » |
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Snatch 243 Menotti: The Concert Suite from the Ballet of Amahl and the Night Visitors
Not Menotti, GG, but an earlier composer of 'blockbuster' sounding scores you could be 'pining' to hear. Having never contributed anything to this game (as I don't understand the rules, and while at work I can't listen to the snatches) I'm just going to butt in here and say that heavy hint must surely lead to Respighi... |
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« Reply #1090 on: 08:14:36, 07-03-2008 » |
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Snatch 243 Menotti: The Concert Suite from the Ballet of Amahl and the Night Visitors
Not Menotti, GG, but an earlier composer of 'blockbuster' sounding scores you could be 'pining' to hear. Having never contributed anything to this game (as I don't understand the rules, and while at work I can't listen to the snatches) I'm just going to butt in here and say that heavy hint must surely lead to Respighi... So, Ruth, can you identify the piece?!  |
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« Reply #1091 on: 08:25:03, 07-03-2008 » |
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Haven't listened, but what about The Pines of Rome?
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« Reply #1092 on: 08:29:59, 07-03-2008 » |
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Haven't listened, but what about The Pines of Rome?
Clues already given indicate a suite from a ballet, with a biblical link. 243 can be heard here: SendSpace or Rapidshare |
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« Reply #1093 on: 09:03:51, 07-03-2008 » |
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We can see your reasoning for that one, Mr Garnett, but we don't think that the Trittico Botticelliano is derived from a ballet. We urge him to continue his endeavours. I was counting on it having been turned into a ballet. Most things seem to be. Now then. We seem to have got as far as it being Respighi and there was a clue about there being a biblical link that it would be wise to follow. That sounds awfully Magi-ish to me. Respighi wrote another Three Magi thing just to confound me?!! I've just been ploughing through Deuteronomy to see if there is anything about a boutique fantasque. No joy as yet. |
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« Reply #1094 on: 09:06:59, 07-03-2008 » |
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We can see your reasoning for that one, Mr Garnett, but we don't think that the Trittico Botticelliano is derived from a ballet. We urge him to continue his endeavours. Now then. We seem to have got as far as it being Respighi and there was a clue about there being a biblical link that it would be wise to follow. That would be the wisdom of George then?! I wonder if Mr Handel could give you a hand? |
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