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Author Topic: Two- to Sixty-second Repertoire Test Discussion  (Read 18090 times)
Baz
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« Reply #165 on: 13:09:18, 31-01-2008 »

A) Running Log from reply 98 to reply 125:

Mr. Baziron 100 for reply 121 (new puzzle 23 - but borderline - is this really "classical"?)

Now come along Mr Grew! Just because it's by one Shostercowsawitch, and just because it's an arrangement of "Tea for Two", doesn't mean it's not "classical". It fulfils your criteria: it is performed (often) in the concert hall as (at least) an Encore, and is beautifully orchestrated and crafted by a leading Western Classical composer (albeit one for whom you have little artistic regard).

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« Reply #166 on: 13:10:36, 31-01-2008 »

Now now, gentlemen...

As I've just guessed correctly for the first time and am feeling generous  Cool here are a couple of encouragements:

Puzzle 14 is by a composer who never borrowed, but stole, and this piece is no exception.

Puzzle 20 is also imitating (the sound of) something, which accounts for its unusually advanced harmonies (for the time). The name of its composer has already been mentioned in this thread...
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Baz
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« Reply #167 on: 13:11:46, 31-01-2008 »

I realise that whatever I say is very unlikely to convince Messrs Baz and Grew, but I regard Asbjørn Schaathun as one of the more interesting composers active today, producing work of consistently high quality and originality (and, as perspicacious Members will no doubt already have suspected, sounding nothing like either Stockhausen or Rackmarninoff) regardless of the tilt of his spectacles.

I have not the slightest doubt that he is an interesting composer, but I thought the gist of Member Grew's message concerned his music rather than his personality and status.

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« Reply #168 on: 13:14:27, 31-01-2008 »

I have not the slightest doubt that he is an interesting composer, but I thought the gist of Member Grew's message concerned his music rather than his personality and status.
Don't be obtuse, Baz, I meant he is a composer of interesting music, though, as I say, I doubt that you would agree.
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Baz
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« Reply #169 on: 13:27:40, 31-01-2008 »

I have not the slightest doubt that he is an interesting composer, but I thought the gist of Member Grew's message concerned his music rather than his personality and status.
Don't be obtuse, Baz, I meant he is a composer of interesting music, though, as I say, I doubt that you would agree.

Well please excuse my obtuseness, and tell us exactly what is (to you) interesting about the piece mentioned by member Grew. That way, when I come to listen to it I shall recall your advice and insights rather than his.

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« Reply #170 on: 14:07:17, 31-01-2008 »

I realise that whatever I say is very unlikely to convince Messrs Baz and Grew, but I regard Asbjørn Schaathun as one of the more interesting composers active today, producing work of consistently high quality and originality (and, as perspicacious Members will no doubt already have suspected, sounding nothing like either Stockhausen or Rackmarninoff) regardless of the tilt of his spectacles.

I have never heard of him, but the description of that piece sounded interesting indeed.  It must be admitted, though, that it IS remarkable that every single photograph of him on this page shows him with his spectacles in that precise arrnagement, is it not?
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« Reply #171 on: 14:14:10, 31-01-2008 »

Does wearing his spectacles there make him high-brow or low-brow? I can't quite decide.
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« Reply #172 on: 14:40:52, 31-01-2008 »

A) Running Log from reply 98 to reply 125:

Mr. Baziron 100 for reply 121 (new puzzle 23 - but borderline - is this really "classical"?)

Now come along Mr Grew! Just because it's by one Shostercowsawitch, and just because it's an arrangement of "Tea for Two", doesn't mean it's not "classical". It fulfils your criteria: it is performed (often) in the concert hall as (at least) an Encore, and is beautifully orchestrated and crafted by a leading Western Classical composer (albeit one for whom you have little artistic regard).

Baz  Grin

So at last we come to the nub of the matter: I was beginning to wonder if the whole exercise might not become a thinly veiled pretext for the rehearsal of personal musical prejudices (e.g. Skyrabid good, Shostakovich bad) and now the arrival of the rating system for individual excerpts (from 1 -7, unsurprisingly) would seem to reinforce that suspicion even further. Back to "Your Hundred Best Highlights" again....
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« Reply #173 on: 15:41:21, 31-01-2008 »

Well please excuse my obtuseness, and tell us exactly what is (to you) interesting about the piece mentioned by member Grew. That way, when I come to listen to it I shall recall your advice and insights rather than his.
I have not heard the piece in question, although my knowledge of other works by this composer gives me the strong impression that Member Grew's "description" of it (actually of its first 90 seconds and last five minutes) is rather inaccurate if not wilfully misleading. Even if it were accurate I might well regard a piece that could be so decribed as potentially very interesting indeed.

I am sorry if you're offended by my regarding your comment as obtuse, but I think most if not all Members would agree that the description "an interesting composer" can almost invariably be taken to mean "a composer of interesting music" and to suggest otherwise, if not obtuse, has perhaps a whiff of mischief about it.
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« Reply #174 on: 16:37:03, 31-01-2008 »

Re: puzzle 7, which has been going on for far too long with no clues - something pre- or early classical, Sturm und Drang-ish, somelike like Benda maybe?  Or Leopold Mozart?
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« Reply #175 on: 16:50:19, 31-01-2008 »

I have never heard of him, but the description of that piece sounded interesting indeed.  It must be admitted, though, that it IS remarkable that every single photograph of him on this page shows him with his spectacles in that precise arrnagement, is it not?
It does rather make you wonder if he has an extra pair of eyes in his forehead, invisible to the rest of the world but no less in need of vision correction.

Presumably he has perfect vision in the lower pair of eyes, unlike for example Charles Wuorinen who needs a pair of glasses for his visible eyes and a second pair for his upper (or forehead) eyes.
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« Reply #176 on: 17:05:19, 31-01-2008 »

Beautiful, isn't it?
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« Reply #177 on: 17:07:07, 31-01-2008 »

. . . the strong impression that Member Grew's "description" of it (actually of its first 90 seconds and last five minutes) is rather inaccurate if not wilfully misleading. Even if it were accurate I might well regard a piece that could be so decribed as potentially very interesting indeed.

Mr. Barrett appears to doubt our musical judgement! Well Members may hear for themselves if they care to listen to this short review extract taken at the twenty-six minute mark. Is it not eighty per centum Rachmaninoff at the beginning, and eighty per centum Stockhausen at the end, precisely as we earlier stated?
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« Reply #178 on: 17:14:48, 31-01-2008 »

this short review extract taken at the twenty-six minute mark. Is it not eighty per centum Rachmaninoff at the beginning, and eighty per centum Stockhausen at the end, precisely as we earlier stated?
Not particularly.
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« Reply #179 on: 17:18:25, 31-01-2008 »

Re: puzzle 7, which has been going on for far too long with no clues - something pre- or early classical, Sturm und Drang-ish, somelike like Benda maybe?  Or Leopold Mozart?

But what is the solo wind instrument which at first sounds like a cross between a flute, a recorder, and a muted trumpet? I think it's some crazy and rare instrument that holds the key to the whole puzzle.
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