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. . . the strong impression that Member Grew's "description" of it (actually of its first 90 seconds and last five minutes) is rather inaccurate if not wilfully misleading. Even if it were accurate I might well regard a piece that could be so decribed as potentially very interesting indeed. Mr. Barrett appears to doubt our musical judgement! Well Members may hear for themselves if they care to listen to this short review extract taken at the twenty-six minute mark. Is it not eighty per centum Rachmaninoff at the beginning, and eighty per centum Stockhausen at the end, precisely as we earlier stated? Not to my ears, Syd: I'd suggest the presence of a certain Messiaenique influence throughout, however. |
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. . . the strong impression that Member Grew's "description" of it (actually of its first 90 seconds and last five minutes) is rather inaccurate if not wilfully misleading. Even if it were accurate I might well regard a piece that could be so decribed as potentially very interesting indeed. Mr. Barrett appears to doubt our musical judgement! Well Members may hear for themselves if they care to listen to this short review extract taken at the twenty-six minute mark. Is it not eighty per centum Rachmaninoff at the beginning, and eighty per centum Stockhausen at the end, precisely as we earlier stated? I listened to it a number of times by various means, and made the following discovery: a) it is best to use Windows Media Player (because of the graphic display) b) the first minute makes more sense if the "ambiance" setting of the display window is set to "dizzy" c) the remainder sounds more effective if the "ambiance" setting is changed to "water". Baz |
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« Reply #182 on: 17:35:50, 31-01-2008 » |
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« Reply #183 on: 18:55:16, 31-01-2008 » |
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A few very vague musings about the outstanding excerpts:
11 French and nineteenth-century - since we are told it is some one's very early work, how about Debussy or Satie?
19 in the style of Shostacowitch but better than he;
A few more clues: Puzzle 11. German, not French, but definitely 19th Century. A previous clue about "As well as 'ask the audience', then perhaps you should 'phone a friend' for good measure!" should reveal the composer at least. If you make a phone call, you...? http://www.sendspace.com/file/0a6tct or http://rapidshare.com/files/87690485/3-02_Puzzle_11.mp3.htmlPuzzle 19. Mr Grew may be surprised by the answer!  rapidshare and sendspaceAs to Ollie's Puzzle 7, I wonder if we should be looking towards Telemann or Graupner? |
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« Reply #184 on: 19:49:04, 31-01-2008 » |
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Re: puzzle 7, which has been going on for far too long with no clues - something pre- or early classical, Sturm und Drang-ish, somelike like Benda maybe? Or Leopold Mozart?
But what is the solo wind instrument which at first sounds like a cross between a flute, a recorder, and a muted trumpet? I think it's some crazy and rare instrument that holds the key to the whole puzzle. Hmm, a crazy and rare wind instrument. No idea. Maybe some sort of high-baroque precursor to the alto saxophone? Could there be such a thing? |
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« Reply #185 on: 19:56:41, 31-01-2008 » |
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As to Ollie's Puzzle 7, I wonder if we should be looking towards Telemann or Graupner?
Or Molter or Fasch, I suppose. But did Molter write anything in B minor? Or is it C minor?  3 |
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« Reply #186 on: 19:59:35, 31-01-2008 » |
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Puzzle 11. German, not French, but definitely 19th Century. A previous clue about "As well as 'ask the audience', then perhaps you should 'phone a friend' for good measure!" should reveal the composer at least. I am afraid I don't watch enough TV : Is that a reference to "Who wantsabea millionaire?" |
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« Reply #187 on: 20:03:03, 31-01-2008 » |
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Chafers, if you 'phone a friend, what do you give them?!
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« Reply #188 on: 20:08:05, 31-01-2008 » |
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A ring? Although Chafe might not know that British term. But it's not from the Ring, is it?? Castanets??
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« Reply #189 on: 20:09:13, 31-01-2008 » |
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As to Ollie's Puzzle 7, I wonder if we should be looking towards Telemann or Graupner?
Or Molter or Fasch, I suppose. But did Molter write anything in B minor? Or is it C minor? I think it sounds more like one of the symphonies of Franz Ignaz Beck. I'm not going to say so of course. |
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« Reply #190 on: 20:09:21, 31-01-2008 » |
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A ring? Although Chafe might not know that British term. But it's not from the Ring, is it?? Castanets??
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« Reply #191 on: 20:21:59, 31-01-2008 » |
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Re: puzzle 7, which has been going on for far too long with no clues - something pre- or early classical, Sturm und Drang-ish, somelike like Benda maybe? Or Leopold Mozart?
But what is the solo wind instrument which at first sounds like a cross between a flute, a recorder, and a muted trumpet? I think it's some crazy and rare instrument that holds the key to the whole puzzle. Hmm, a crazy and rare wind instrument. No idea. Maybe some sort of high-baroque precursor to the alto saxophone? Could there be such a thing? Knowing Ollie, it's probably a chalumeau! (Aha! Now that's an interesting thought as to provenance.) Baz |
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Re: puzzle 7, which has been going on for far too long with no clues - something pre- or early classical, Sturm und Drang-ish, somelike like Benda maybe? Or Leopold Mozart?
But what is the solo wind instrument which at first sounds like a cross between a flute, a recorder, and a muted trumpet? I think it's some crazy and rare instrument that holds the key to the whole puzzle. Hmm, a crazy and rare wind instrument. No idea. Maybe some sort of high-baroque precursor to the alto saxophone? Could there be such a thing? Knowing Ollie, it's probably a chalumeau! (Aha! Now that's an interesting thought as to provenance.) Baz A chalumeau? What's that? Never heard of it. I think it's more likely to be a glass armonica. |
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Knowing Ollie, it's probably a chalumeau! (Aha! Now that's an interesting thought as to provenance.)
A chalumeau? What's that? Never heard of it. I wondered if the chalumeau would be too obvious for Ollie. I think there's something about it which sounds like Vanhal. |
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« Reply #194 on: 20:58:36, 31-01-2008 » |
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Knowing Ollie, it's probably a chalumeau! (Aha! Now that's an interesting thought as to provenance.)
A chalumeau? What's that? Never heard of it. I wondered if the chalumeau would be too obvious for Ollie. I think there's something about it which sounds like Vanhal. I'm only listening on tiny tinny laptop speakers, but the "horns" in the "snatch" (  ) don't sound much like the chalumeau featured in the "please help me identify this piece" thread. Vanhal is an intriguing possibility. Although my one experience of playing Vanhal was rather boring, and this piece doesn't sound boring. Don't know much about the other composers mentioned (Molter, Fasch, Beck). I think it's later than Telemann or Graupner. |
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