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Author Topic: Two- to Sixty-second Repertoire Test Discussion  (Read 18090 times)
Baz
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« Reply #450 on: 11:31:43, 09-02-2008 »

After eight years of almost daily communion with Mr. Lebrecht's tremendous book the error you rightly indicate is the first therein to have come to our notice.
"A participial phrase at the beginning of a sentence must refer to the grammatical subject." (Strunk, 1918)

Believe it or not we ourself did before pressing the "Post" button consider whether it would be better to put "After eight years of almost daily communion with Mr. Lebrecht's tremendous book" later in the sentence. But we quickly realized that that was unnecessary. Firstly although it is true that it is a phrase it is not at all a "participial phrase" as the Member appears to believe. No participle is in evidence! Had it been a participial phrase it would have an adjectival function and would indeed be presumed to modify the subject which consists of the words "the error" in this case. But our phrase has nothing to do with participles; it is a prepositional phrase of time relationship and it functions as an adverbial adjunct. As the Member may know and as his curiously Northern American and hence hardly reliable mentor Strunk must nevertheless have known adverbs and adverbial adjuncts may occur in all kinds of places within the structure of a sentence and it is certainly not out of place where we put it. The connection of the "communion" with "our" later in the sentence is evidently a semantic one rather than a syntactic is not it.


I'll hazard a guess Mr Grew. Is it 4' 33" by John Cage?

Baz
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #451 on: 22:01:28, 09-02-2008 »

A reminder that Mr. D's PUZZLE 42 has now expired. If the aforesaid Mr. D cares to reveal its solution 480 points are awaiting him, since the new rule about puzzles expiring unsolved applies only to puzzles 60 onwards.
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« Reply #452 on: 22:45:18, 09-02-2008 »

First hint re #61
The composer enjoyed a reputation for improvising beautifully on the violin -- while accompanying himself on the pedals of the organ. If he'd been able to sing well, he could have performed all the notated parts of this work by himself!
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #453 on: 23:32:50, 09-02-2008 »

For Chafers' no. 61 I'll take a punt on Nikolaus Bruhns: Ich liege und schlafe.

We cannot quite make out the words, but isn't he singing something about "Spring awakening"?
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« Reply #454 on: 00:11:51, 10-02-2008 »

We cannot quite make out the words, but isn't he singing something about "Spring awakening"?
Not Frühling aufstehen but Frühlich aufstehen, which means "awaking earlily."

edit: The libretto says "Früh will ich aufwachen" which means "I will (want to) wake up early." Sorry for the premature interpretation.
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« Reply #455 on: 00:49:18, 10-02-2008 »

Merde. Funny thing is, it was the fact that the singer sounded like Schreckenberger that made me look for Cantus Cölln that made me think it might be Bruhns.

Funny old world.
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« Reply #456 on: 09:12:53, 10-02-2008 »

Time to drip-feed some clues re 56-59...

Despite guesses that No.59 is John Adams or Philip Glass, I can reveal it's 19th Century! Also, No.58 is not French.

I may drop in an aural clue later... Wink
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« Reply #457 on: 09:23:43, 10-02-2008 »

And a clue for number 60: the composer - although not a Frenchman - wrote this in the South of France.
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« Reply #458 on: 10:39:39, 10-02-2008 »

Mr. Inquisitor's Puzzle No. 59. Could it be Bruckner's early (1863) Symphony in F minor?


Puzzle 59 was composed nine years later than this.
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« Reply #459 on: 11:04:02, 10-02-2008 »

Although the horns in No.59 sound Brucknerian, I'd advise members against further suggestions re symphonies by this composer!  Wink
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« Reply #460 on: 11:51:45, 10-02-2008 »

IGI - is it Russian?
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« Reply #461 on: 12:15:48, 10-02-2008 »

IGI - is it Russian?

Martle - very!
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« Reply #462 on: 12:59:37, 10-02-2008 »

IGI - is it Russian?

Martle - very!

Bear in mind the 'musical connectivity' between Puzzles 57-59. Tinners, I think it was, has already established something very certain about the first piece...get one piece and the rest should fall like a pack of cards.
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« Reply #463 on: 13:46:49, 10-02-2008 »

Tinners, I think it was, has already established something very certain about the first piece...
It was Mr MacRae: he said it "sounds like Sibelius (but none I know)" ...
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« Reply #464 on: 14:00:38, 10-02-2008 »

Tinners, I think it was, has already established something very certain about the first piece...
It was Mr MacRae: he said it "sounds like Sibelius (but none I know)" ...

Ah, so it was. Apologies to Mr Macrae and Mr Now!

I shall add that Puzzle 58 is by an English composer.
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