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Author Topic: Competition: Two- to Sixty-Second Repertoire Test  (Read 29230 times)
Antheil
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« Reply #2805 on: 16:45:54, 27-03-2008 »

Puzzle 464 - Bantock's Helena Variations?
No that is wide of the mark.

So, I don't suppose it would be Hindemith, Variations on a Theme then?
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #2806 on: 19:42:09, 27-03-2008 »

Puzzle 464 - Bantock's Helena Variations?
No that is wide of the mark.

So, I don't suppose it would be Hindemith, Variations on a Theme then?

Few indeed would ever suppose that. And yet if Members only follow the simple instructions given in our recent hint, and google accordingly, they will - despite what Mr. Watson says - find the answer leaping into their laps from the very first page of results!

We are considering since active participants are dropping off daily the introduction of new rules to make this competition livelier. First, increasing the number of puzzles any Member may have open from three to ten. Second, increasing the points for a correct answer from 180 to 600.
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autoharp
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« Reply #2807 on: 19:52:14, 27-03-2008 »

464 - Britten - Variations on a theme of Frank Bridge? (Surely not?)
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Antheil
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« Reply #2808 on: 20:12:46, 27-03-2008 »

Puzzle 464 - Bantock's Helena Variations?
No that is wide of the mark.
So, I don't suppose it would be Hindemith, Variations on a Theme then?
Few indeed would ever suppose that.
We are considering since active participants are dropping off daily the introduction of new rules to make this competition livelier. Second, increasing the points for a correct answer from 180 to 600.
So, Dear Esteemed Quiz Maestro Sidney, would that 600 points be applied to my correct answer of Hummel, which you have to admit, I was the only one to spot The Composer?
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #2809 on: 20:28:37, 27-03-2008 »

After the oboe, some clarinetty bits:

Puzzle 469

Puzzle 470

Puzzle 471

I'll put Rapidshare files up too if there's a problem. Hope they're loud enough; it was the best I could do.
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #2810 on: 21:10:41, 27-03-2008 »

464 - The Classical Variations by Uri Caine.

Well, that's Googling for you. All I get otherwise is the Brahms Variations on a Theme by Haydn and Mahler's Adagietto.
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #2811 on: 23:35:48, 27-03-2008 »

464 - Britten - Variations on a theme of Frank Bridge? (Surely not?)

Sorry no we hear no Bridge.
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #2812 on: 23:42:35, 27-03-2008 »

464 - The Classical Variations by Uri Caine.

Well, that's Googling for you. All I get otherwise is the Brahms Variations on a Theme by Haydn and Mahler's Adagietto.

Sorry no. Every one except the good Mr. Thompson seems to be ignoring the obvious; here he is again, wrong of course but in a rightish sort of way:

Right some guesses:

459 Mahler Symphony No.5 Adagietto
461 Mahler Symphony No.5 Adagietto
464 Mahler Symphony No.5 Adagietto
465 Mahler Symphony No.5 Adagietto

I know they are all wrong, but that's 80 points.....  Wink

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Tony Watson
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« Reply #2813 on: 00:21:40, 28-03-2008 »

464 - Mahler's Ruckert Lieder: Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen. (Orchestral version.)
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #2814 on: 00:28:22, 28-03-2008 »

464 - Mahler's Ruckert Lieder: Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen. (Orchestral version.)

Sorry it's not that. The idea is to google for "variations on a theme of x" substituting for x what one hears at the end of the statement at the beginning of the excerpt.
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #2815 on: 00:51:39, 28-03-2008 »

464 - Mahler Variations by Greg Sandow.
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #2816 on: 01:03:50, 28-03-2008 »

464 - Mahler Variations by Greg Sandow.

Sorry no it is not that but the Member is on the right lines.
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Daniel
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« Reply #2817 on: 01:04:36, 28-03-2008 »

Google and I have 464 down as possibly:

Jan Klusak
Variations on a Theme by Gustav Mahler (1962)
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #2818 on: 01:16:51, 28-03-2008 »

Google and I have 464 down as possibly:

Jan Klusak
Variations on a Theme by Gustav Mahler (1962)

Correct Mr. Daniel! One of the first Czech serial works. Here is something of what the composer himself says of it:

"I started contemplating the composition of orchestral variations on a prominent theme from the Adagietto of Mahler’s Fifth Symphony in the Spring of 1960. I imagined a piece of music whose fabric would disintegrate and atomize in the manner of Webern and his followers, and yet something universally musical and familiar would constantly emerge from it. It would be very hard to discern traces of some ordinary music fading away before our very eyes. It would be like someone drowning and resurfacing every so often to yell for help, after which there would just be the roar of water and other sounds of nature. Or like some creature battling death and trying to say or do something meaningful in its final throes, but with no strength left. Incoherence, hesitation, suffusion with blood were intended to be part of the composition from the outset, and I really do think they are present. Or like when we find a fragment of something that had once been part of a whole, and now we strenuously piece it together; I say strenuously because strenuousness and laboriousness, and particularly vain and abortive laboriousness, were also part of the programme of the Variations from the outset.

"So what sort of composition are the Variations? They are Jewish, above all: on account of their Old Testament, existentialist and unransomed attitude, also their Mahleresqueness, as well as their overall atmosphere, which I can’t rationally substantiate, but you can feel; also because they are connected with my father, and finally because they are arranged according to numbers that are significant in the Kaballah (this wasn’t intentional, however, I only discovered it afterwards) [...] Another characteristic of the Variations is that they are to do with content; I’d almost call them a programme composition in the Berliozian, Brucknerian, Mahlerian or Schoenbergian sense, because apart from being music, they also have an extra-musical significance – they have their own ideology. During the first days after finishing the score I wrote down a number of headings: Variations I-II – longing for ideal beauty, a bit ostrich-like; a little glass castle, fairy tale. Variation IV– levity, profligacy; whereas the previous two variations hid themselves from reality, this one is flightily reconciled with it and lives in it without a care or remorse; cynicism. Variation VI – word of command, signal. Variations VII-VIII – mysterious stampede. Variations IX-X – imminent storm. Variation XII – horror of life, and sadness that most people have no notion of such a thing. Variation XIII – extreme hysteria. Variation XIV – beneath the wheels of the world. Variation XV – faint rustles of objects; the impenetrability of things. Variation XVI – extreme loneliness. That probably suffices. It’s obvious, I hope, that the Variations on a Theme of Mahler are a romantic work and they are to be performed romantically [...] I also regard them as a Secessionist and Expressionist composition, written sixty years after the period when those styles were current."

Our extract of course comprises the end of the statement and the beginning of the first variation.
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Daniel
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« Reply #2819 on: 01:35:51, 28-03-2008 »

Yes, I read through that on the site Google took me to when pursuing your clues.

It seems rather rich in parts!

Anyway, hurrah! Maybe I will hear the piece sometime and like it more than I like the composer's description of it.
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