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« Reply #150 on: 00:48:10, 16-03-2008 »

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« Reply #151 on: 07:09:32, 16-03-2008 »

Let's not forget the popularity of the pomegranate in the folktale.  I was tempted to quote "The Love of Three Pomegranates*" but there, as is maybe obvious from the more popular orange version, the pomegranates are replacable with any other reddish fruits, so here's a snippit of another one in Calvino, 'The School of Salamanca', that I quite like, where the fact that the pomegranate is a pomegranate is a little more important:

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Hearing that voice, the princess almost died of fright, but curiosity then got the better of her and she granted him permission to show himself.  "Ring I am, and a man will I become!"  The ring gleamed brighter, and there stood a dazzling young man.  The princess was fascinated and couldn't take her eyes off of him.  Then when she heard all his accomplishments and the misfortunes he was enduring, she fell in love with him and insisted that he remain with here.  In the daytime the youth turned back into the ring, which she wore on her finger.  At night when they were alone, he took back his human form.

But the Master didn't stand idly by.  One morning the king woke up in terrible pain.  All the doctors were called, and they made him take every medicine known to man, but his suffering did not lessen.  The princess was grieved, and the youth still more so because he knew all this was the Master's doing.  As a matter of fact, here came a foreign doctor to the palace, from a a country at the end of the earth, and he claimed that if they let him into the king's room, he would cure him.  They showed him in at once, but the princess saw the ring gleaming more intensely and realized that the youth wanted a word with her.  She shut herself up in the chamber, and the young man said, "What a mistake you have made!  That doctor is the Master!  He will cure your father but, for his pay, he will demand the ring!  Refuse to give it up, but if the king orders you to, then throw it on the floor as hard as you can!"

Things happened that way:  the king got well and told the doctor, "Name whatever you want, and I will give it to you."  At first the doctor pretended to want nothing, but at the king's insistence, he asked for the ring on the princess's finger. She screamed, cried, and finally fainted; but feeling the king grab her hand to take the ring by force, she suddenly jumped up, slipped it from her finger, and threw it to the floor.

As soon as she hurled it, a voice was heard.  "Ring I am, and a pomegranate will I become!"  The pomegranate broke open on the floor, and seeds scattered all over the room.

"Doctor I am, and a cock will I become!" said the Master, turning into a cock and proceeding to eat the seeds one by one.  But one seed landed under the long skirt of the princess, who kept it hidden there.

"Pomegranate I am, and a fox will I become!" said the seed, and out from under the princess's skirt jumped a fox and ate the cock in one gulp.

The pupil had outwitted the Master! The fox turned back into a young man, told the king his story, and the next day all the cannons were fired in honor of the princess's marriage.

*in the version in Calvino, the Ugly Saracen tries to kill the lady who was birthed from a pomegranate by sticking a hairpin in her ear.  This makes a little more sense now, thanks to time's handy pomegranate-eating advice.
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« Reply #152 on: 08:23:58, 16-03-2008 »

But in every subsequent myth that mentions her, she's always in the underworld.  Doesn't seem right to me.

I don't think I'd ever thought of it like that (something is nagging that she's with her mum in Catullus' long poem about (well sort of) the marriage of Peleus and Thetis), but you're absolutely right. Despite the arrangement, her function seems to devolve into being the wife of Hades from that point on (though it might be interesting to consider the 'unwritten' mythology of her cult and that of Demeter within rural Greece - is there anything in Virgil's Georgics?).
I have always found it interesting to speculate how much of what we consider as mythology is merely an oral tradition arising from retellings of stories codified in literary forms by the ancient Greeks and Romans.

PS I found this an interesting read - many aspects of Persephone that I hadn't considered or remembered before.
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« Reply #153 on: 09:01:02, 16-03-2008 »

PS I found this an interesting read - many aspects of Persephone that I hadn't considered or remembered before.

It doesn't say whether she used a pin or not.Angry  If anyone here has any inside information about Persephone's pomegranate-eating habits I would be prepared to accept that as authoritative on what we should all do. Smiley  
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« Reply #154 on: 13:03:53, 16-03-2008 »

To the Country Living exhibition is Islington with a female friend yesterday-extended detour anound the foodie bit (on today only if you're free). An extensive discourse from Windsor Jim on the science of fudge, and some interesting wine buffery (I am a relative greenhorn but that didn't matter I found). Very accomodating ethos, and it occured to me that  a musician or two could set up a stall there to good effect.
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« Reply #155 on: 18:00:57, 16-03-2008 »

I can't stand pomegranates.  Never could understand the appeal.

I digress.  We've just been munching macaroni cheese with a crunchy green salad/vinaigrette and microwave chips.  My only defence is that macaroni and cheese sauce is so quick and easy to make, is very filling and tastes amazing with crunchy salad.  It was my "take it easy" day to day - I haven't done a big curry banquet for the family for once, so I've done a Delia Smith-type easy-way-out.  I made the cheese sauce for the macaroni, but everything else was bought - even the Tesco Finest Vinaigrette - which is actually quite good.

I promise I'll be back to normal next week.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #156 on: 18:33:47, 16-03-2008 »

Oh my; is this going to turn into some sort of crunchy salad thread? 

I still have no time for lettuce at all.  AT ALL. 

Lettuce is not welcome in my home.
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« Reply #157 on: 18:41:37, 16-03-2008 »

I used to hate lettuce too - however, having a vegetarian wife and discovering the joys of salad dressing (especially high fat and gallons of the stuff) have changed that slightly - although I draw the line at courgettes and also...celery (vomiting emoticon)
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« Reply #158 on: 18:46:44, 16-03-2008 »

Oh my; is this going to turn into some sort of crunchy salad thread? 

I still have no time for lettuce at all.  AT ALL. 

Lettuce is not welcome in my home.

Hmmm. Not to keen on lettuce then, incs? Cheesy  Not even feisty, peppery rocket? Although I suppose that counts as a herb ...

Jonathan, courgettes don't do it for me either. I just don't really see the point of them, no matter how much they are fiddled around with. Very little taste and a not terribly pleasing texture.
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« Reply #159 on: 19:16:18, 16-03-2008 »

Jonathan, courgettes don't do it for me either. I just don't really see the point of them, no matter how much they are fiddled around with. Very little taste and a not terribly pleasing texture.

Hmmm are you cooking them for too long then?
I like to brush them with oil and slap them on a hot griddle until they're nicely charred but still nicely crunchy.
The other way I like to cook them is to really really slowly fry them with onions and garlic until they're falling to bits, add cream and use as a pasta sauce.
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« Reply #160 on: 19:37:11, 16-03-2008 »


Hmm. Crunchy salad chez Milly, consists of chopped iceberg lettuce, rocket, celery,
finely chopped spring onion, red, yellow and green peppers, chopped raw mushroom, with the vinaigrette dressing and served with little cherry tomatoes.

That will go down like a lead zeppelin with Incy and co., but it was actually very nice indeed with the macaroni cheese.

You can keep courgettes!  Nasty soggy things. Ugh.  Okra is used a lot in Indian cookery but not by me.  The texture is awful.
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« Reply #161 on: 19:41:53, 16-03-2008 »

You can keep courgettes!  Nasty soggy things.
Hmmm are you cooking them for too long then?
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Okra is used a lot in Indian cookery but not by me.  The texture is awful.
I wouldn't eat it on its own certainly. I've only ever used it in a GUMBO, in which it was fabulous.
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« Reply #162 on: 19:45:12, 16-03-2008 »

One thing that I really would rather I didn't eat (well there are a few actually) are raw peppers and raw onion. Don't care what colour either of them are, but I'd really rather not thanks.

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« Reply #163 on: 20:02:24, 16-03-2008 »

Okra can be revolting and glutinous if cooked for too long. It's best with brief cooking. Jaffrey has a yummy recipe for Okra cooked with black and yellow mustard seeds. Takes 10 minutes max, tastes lovely and retains some crunch.

Don't think I'm ever going to be won over on the courgette problem. Even though I feel they don't have much taste, what they do have I don't like Roll Eyes 
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« Reply #164 on: 20:06:24, 16-03-2008 »

Okra can be revolting and glutinous if cooked for too long. It's best with brief cooking.
I've had bad experience with the former sort.  Must return to them some day.

And, to clarify: my grips with lettuce aren't to do with taste, rather the fact that no sooner have I brought a head in the door than it's shedding all over the kitchen. 
 
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