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« Reply #1890 on: 11:47:36, 04-04-2007 » |
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Isn't it at least partly the thought that counts, George? (I'm referring here to Benjamin Britten rather than prunes.) As it happens I have been happily listening instead to Dutilleux, whose complete orchestral works on CD recently arrived at Schloss Lenz. (I would have written this in the "Now spinning" thread but I couldn't find it, so sorry for being offtopic.) Haven't heard most of this stuff for years. Is there a more attractive 20th century cello concerto, I wonder? I don't think so. The only thing in all of this music that sets my teeth on edge is the "tuning-up" episode in the Violin Concerto, which sticks out from its elegant surroundings like a sore avant-garde thumb (and they're the worst, let me tell you).
I believe Frank Zappa had some eye-opening things to say about prunes on his album Absolutely Free.
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« Reply #1891 on: 11:51:20, 04-04-2007 » |
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happily listening instead to Dutilleux ... who, believe it or not, is less than 2 years younger. I sometimes wish there was a bit more to set my teeth on edge. And sometimes the circling around the same pitches and harmonies gets a bit much for me. But much of it is very beautiful indeed, and not uninteresting structurally or texturally. I especially like Mystère de l'instant (but then I would, as a paid-up Bartókian, wouldn't I  ). Let us know when you get up to the wonderful Second Symphony 'Le Double', Richard (and, if you're curious about such things, which I'm pretty sure you are, you could always get the old Munch version on Erato to hear what it sounded like when the last chord used to be a C# major triad in place of the rather denser 'collection' on to which the finale now cadences). |
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« Reply #1892 on: 12:01:59, 04-04-2007 » |
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I've been there already, t_i_n, and indeed it's a wonderful work with a unique sound-world (which I remember from the Munch recording in the days of LPs). Though I'm not so keen on some of its more neoclassical excursions, other passages seem clearly to prefigure the "spectral" music of Murail, Grisey, Dufourt and others which came a couple of decades later. The big discovery for me in the new set is Mystère de l'instant though.
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« Reply #1893 on: 12:28:11, 04-04-2007 » |
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The big discovery for me in the new set is Mystère de l'instant though.
Did you write that before reading the edited version of my message (in which case, great minds ...)  |
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« Reply #1894 on: 12:33:55, 04-04-2007 » |
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Yes I did. |
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« Reply #1895 on: 13:59:44, 04-04-2007 » |
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Right, it really is time for Peter Grimes now.
How was it, Richard (if it 'was')? Assembled Company: We will persist and insist on the truth. (whoops, different opera) |
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« Reply #1896 on: 14:40:08, 04-04-2007 » |
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See my post 1916, Ian. I've just spoken to the people at the computer shop and they tell me they can get it back to me on Tuesday, but unfortunately the cost of the repair (ie. replacing the main logic board) is going to be approximately SIX HUNDRED POUNDS. I could almost contemplate buying a new computer for that... but not quite.
I feel rather sick.
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« Reply #1897 on: 14:46:35, 04-04-2007 » |
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See my post 1916, Ian. I've just spoken to the people at the computer shop and they tell me they can get it back to me on Tuesday, but unfortunately the cost of the repair (ie. replacing the main logic board) is going to be approximately SIX HUNDRED POUNDS. I could almost contemplate buying a new computer for that... but not quite.
I feel rather sick.
Sorry, I missed that post. Much sympathy for your plight, having had a computer totally die on me recently. I think we should all chip in to at least buy you a CD of Grimes for next time we get together (is there any chance of our changing the date of that from the one I initially suggested, so I can be there?). |
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« Reply #1898 on: 15:04:54, 04-04-2007 » |
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Unfortunately the only direction I could move the date in would be to an earlier day, which I gather wouldn't work for you.
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« Reply #1899 on: 15:57:44, 04-04-2007 » |
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I was computerless for two weeks recently, so I sympathise, Richard. How have these things become so essential? It's not work for me, but I didn't know how to buy things or find things out (especially that) without it.
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« Reply #1900 on: 22:27:32, 05-04-2007 » |
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Oh dear. And here I am with a new computer myself. Seems to be the season for such things. I also had a mother board pack it in, which would also have cost almost enough to buy a new machine to repair. On the other hand I did indeed buy a new machine. Also ouch on the financial front: €2000 basically, once you add a bit of essential software on top. I could have bought a nice new instrument for that. Indeed I was going to. Indeed I still will but it's the principle that counts. And of course the principal.
Gave me an excuse to change to a Mac though...
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« Reply #1901 on: 23:49:14, 05-04-2007 » |
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My computer's got no nose. How does it smell? Well it doesn't, it's a computer |
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« Reply #1902 on: 00:04:26, 07-04-2007 » |
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That bouncing kitten thing is evil.  1541 so far. |
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« Reply #1903 on: 09:44:36, 07-04-2007 » |
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Hm, only 778.9 so far.
That patch of mud around 325 is a nuisance.
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« Reply #1904 on: 09:51:35, 07-04-2007 » |
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Köln does have some rather well-fed Venus kitten traps by now... Anyone else noticed that the explosives are labelled LOL and OMFG? |
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