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« Reply #30 on: 23:55:37, 08-07-2008 » |
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My violin is a Thompson. It dates from around 1780.
Tommo, Do you know if the violin was sold by Thompson & Co. or made by them? Some links I found: Thompson, Charles. Died on Sunday [9 Feb] Mr. Thompson, musick-seller, in St. Paul's Churchyard (Daily Advertiser 11 Feb 1777) Twelve Country Dances for the Year 1779. Set for the Harpsichord By Permission Humbly Dedicated to the Right Honourable Miss North, by her most obedient Servant Ignatius Sancho. London Printed for S and A Thompson No 75 St Pauls Church Yard Price 6d Twenty four Marches, Minuets and Airs, in Seven Parts for Two Violins, Two Hoboys, or German Flutes, Two French Horns and a Bass ... Opa 5th, etc. [Parts.] (London : Printed for S. A. & P. Thompson, [1783?]) BL Ref.: b.83.a. [Advertised as “just published” on 30 Sept 1769.] and see this for sale http://ukbookworld.com/cgi-bin/order_enq.pl?add=johnprice%235447.... Peter Thompson Musical Instrument Maker at ye Violin, Houtboy, & German Flute at ye West End of St. Pauls Church Yd. Where Books of Instructions for any Single Instrument may be had, [c. 1755]., |
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« Reply #31 on: 00:14:49, 09-07-2008 » |
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Made. In fact, the label on the inside of the violin is copied word for word as my messageboard signature. And from this google search, that would suggest my violin was made between 1757-61! THOMPSON, Samuel, musical instrument maker, music printer, seller and publisher, Violin and Flute, Violin and Hautboy etc., West end St. Paul's Churchyard c1746-65; 75, St. Paul's Churchyard c1766-1805. Trading: as Peter Thompson c1746-57; as Thompson and son c1757-61; as Thompson and sons c1761-63; as Charles and Samuel Thompson c1763-76; as Samuel Thompson c1776-77; as Samuel and Anne Thompson c1777-79; as Samuel, Anne and Peter Thompson c 1779-93; as Samuel, Anne, Peter and Henry Thompson c1793-94; as Samuel, Anne and Henry Thompson c1794-95; as Anne and Henry Thompson 1795-98; as Henry Thompson c1798-1805. S. of Peter. T.; d. Aug. 1795. Entered business of Peter's widow Anne c1761. Chief partner c1776. Firm purchased by Purday and Button 1805. Humphries and Smith.But perhaps they continued using the labels later on. A valuer had a look and thought it might not be made by Charles Thompson, but more likely by his workers, although the purfling is of god quality on my fid. Nice single piece back with a really golden glow about it. Just sorry the front is a bit bashed up....  I believe where the site was is now a Marks and Spencers. Tommo |
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Made by Thompson & son, at the Violin & c. the West end of St. Paul's Churchyard, LONDON
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« Reply #32 on: 00:16:18, 09-07-2008 » |
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Like Andy D I very boringly really am John W  I didn't know Andy D was also called John W. I'm called John F in real life. I don't post on messageboards under that name: (a) because I do make part of my living writing about music, and I want to keep a distinction between the sometimes less-than-fully formed thoughts I post on messageboards and the ones I sign my name to professionally in CD booklets, magazines etc.; (b) because I enjoy the opportunities for playfulness offered by the whole name game. I chose "time_is_now" when I first joined the official BBC forum - about 2 years ago now (gosh!). At the time I had mainly been following the Contemporary or New Music board (can't remember which it was called back then), and time_is_now seemed to suit my special interest in contemporary music, and my intention to promote that interest through my postings. Of course, these days we all seem to spend more time swapping jokes and lewd comments than discussing the latest edition of Hear and Now.  It's also, of course, what the speaking clock says (the time is now ten minutes after midnight): I like puns. It's also, somewhere in the back of things, a reference to the concept of Jetztzeit or "now-time" used by Walter Benjamin: 'History', he writes, 'is the subject of a structure whose site is not homogeneous, empty time, but Jetztzeit - time filled by the presence of the now.' In music as in historiography, I'm interested in the revolutionary potential secreted in time which is not 'empty'. |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #33 on: 01:00:16, 09-07-2008 » |
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I originally used a pseudonym because I had never posted on any kind of internet forum or chatroom and was overcautious. Now I continue to use a pseudonym for similar reasons to time_is_now, I suppose. My real name is very distinctive, and I'd rather not it was too immediately obvious to any passing colleagues what I may be saying. Partly so I'm free to witter on about bows and such without worrying I'm betraying great ignorance and undisciplined thoughts that may undermine any authority I could otherwise muster, partly so I'm free to be (somewhat) honest about performances or recordings done by people I know. Even so I do tend to be a bit cautious about such things. It's a cruel profession, one's position seems determined more by who gets on with you rather than your abilities - and I'm ever mindful of having to pay the bills.
That being said, I don't think I've ever said anything dishonest here. And it certainly isn't difficult to figure out my real name, what with the concert plugs I've posted. I have no objection to the people who take the time and trouble to get to understand each other's opinions and character knowing who I am. But I'd rather remain slightly under the radar to those who may be casually glancing in.
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #34 on: 01:21:11, 09-07-2008 » |
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partly so I'm free to be (somewhat) honest about performances or recordings done by people I know. I'm in that situation as well - my attitude is that if I am going to express an opinion in any public arena on such things, I'll do it under my own name, or not at all. To be honest, I really despise all these multiple levels of falsehood you encounter in the music world, and all the bottom-kissing that goes with it (both in real life and on messageboards). But, strina, wouldn't your opinions about those things carry more weight if you did put your name to them? Otherwise, aren't they just those of yet another anonymous poster, of whom there are a very great number online. The use of pseudonyms is by far the most frequent reason I hear cited for why many people don't want to participate in messageboards, indeed find them abhorrent. It's a cruel profession, one's position seems determined more by who gets on with you rather than your abilities - and I'm ever mindful of having to pay the bills. I do appreciate that, of course, and would actually take what you say further - one's position is determined not only by those with whom one gets on, but also by the smooth and relatively anonymous way in which one's compositional or performance work accords with whatever is the mainstream at any one point in time. The music has to 'get on' as well. It's one reason why I tend to stay away from the majority of concerts in the UK nowadays, unless it's composers or performers in whom I have a very strong interest. Sometimes I go with an open mind to others, genuinely hoping to hear something different, but it's very unusual when that happens. When the emphasis is all on image and marketing, the rest of the 'package' needs must be standardised so as not to distract attention from the former qualities. |
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #35 on: 01:37:52, 09-07-2008 » |
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I think I explained it somewhere else. But since I seem to rely heavily on volatile memory (i.e. all information in memory is lost when the unit is not active) I hope nobody minds if I repeat myself here. Is anybody still awake? When I first joined the Radio Three boards, I was Mellow-Dee. A lame attempt to identify with something that I regard as fundamental to good musical structure. I later decided that I needed a higher web profile, and having already adopted the name Kittybriton for another site because - I have almost always had at least one cat
- It links me to my native land
- Many years ago, I drew a cat cartoon which I felt represented me quite well
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Click me -> About meor me -> my handmade storeNo, I'm not a complete idiot. I'm only a halfwit. In fact I'm actually a catfish. |
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« Reply #36 on: 09:36:56, 09-07-2008 » |
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I would ask why various people feel the need to hide behind pseudonyms
For me personally, it's because I refer to where I live, so I don't want my full name available becuase I'm in the phone book! I don't want to offend some psycho out there and then come home to find my house burned down. Paranoid? Possibly... (But just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.) I think I explained my pseudonym in the intros section, but it's basically a random strad. I picked out from a list. And I like the colour. Interesting reading everyone else's stories. Increpatio - I find yours very catchy, in fact it sometimes just pops into my head for no apparent reason. It's a good word.  |
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« Reply #37 on: 09:39:52, 09-07-2008 » |
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When I signed up for the old BBC R3 boards I read something about them encouraging psuedonyms. This seemed like an odd policy but I went along with it... I chose "IgnorantRockFan" simply because... it was true  It has become a bit of a millstone. When I met Jonathan and Ian Pace the other week, I felt distinctly stupid introducing myself as "IgnorantRockFan"  This is the only forum I post on that I don't use my real name for. I have no reason to hide my name, and I (hope) I never write anything that I'm ashamed to sign my name to. And my real name is plastered all over my web site, which I've linked to a couple of times before, for anyone that's really interested! |
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martle
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« Reply #38 on: 09:58:35, 09-07-2008 » |
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(a) because I do make part of my living writing about music, and I want to keep a distinction between the sometimes less-than-fully formed thoughts I post on messageboards and the ones I sign my name to professionally in CD booklets, magazines etc.; (b) because I enjoy the opportunities for playfulness offered by the whole name game.
Exactly so for me too, tinners, as I remember explaining to Ian many moons ago. A lot of people here know my real name and that's fine, and there have been links to concerts and other stuff, and even photos here (ugh) so it's not difficult to identify me. But there's part of me that's sometimes just tired of being 'me', and god knows I have to give opinions and make judgements under my real name enough of the time in 'real life'. I like being martle. |
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« Reply #39 on: 10:06:47, 09-07-2008 » |
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Lovely way to have your name come about JantheFan. Pity about Lady G, nevermind!!
With mine, just came to me. So i thought yes, why not. I love brass bands and classical and jazz, etc, so I thought, why not. My email to!! So heaven knows what people think when i send an email to them about jobs, etc.
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« Reply #40 on: 10:13:03, 09-07-2008 » |
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My board name stems from my policy, adopted when I first started needing passwords and user names for cyber purposes, of using the names of albums and song titles of the fairly obscure prog rock band Van der Graaf Generator. These seemed to me to be both very easy for me to remember and moderately difficult for people to guess (Obviously it’s not high level security but the sequences are not a complete pushover). I don’t agree with Ian about using real names. If this were an industry forum he might have a point; but it’s not – it’s open to anyone with any level of interest or knowledge. My real name would be utterly meaningless to most people on the boards – in fact HtoHe, who has been contributing to several BBC fora for four or five years, is a more real persona to most readers than my real name can ever suggest. I like the anonymity offered by a pseudonym – mainly because it provides a buffer against the prurient curiosity of people in the real world who have no interest in the business of whatever board I might be contributing to. It also means I can tell anecdotes without compromising the privacy of the people involved – using my real name would obviously make it easy for mutual acquaintances to guess who they were. I don’t abuse the privilege of anonymity by being abusive or pretending to a level of expertise I don’t possess. The few people I have had the privilege of meeting in person after encountering them on the boards can confirm that I don’t expect to be called HtoHe to my face!
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« Reply #41 on: 10:42:16, 09-07-2008 » |
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As with IRF, it was the Beeb board's suggestion that a pseudonym should be adopted which originally prompted the move, and I decided that I wanted a punning name with musical connotations, the eventual choice further strengthening the concept of anonymity by its close phonic echoing of John Doe. Since I've already lived well over half of my life with two names anyway (Equity members may not have a name already in use, and there was somebody with my name already on the books when I joined), a third makes little difference, although I am aware that each has its own personality which whilst largely overlapping nonetheless has its own idiosyncrasies. Much of my professional life has been involved in assuming and developing other characters, not only from existing scripts but through improvisation: a degree of alienation has always struck me as useful, allowing me to develop ideas in different ways from those my native behaviour would suggest (as has doubtless been shown by some of the various other characters who have arisen in the course of some of the humourous threads I've contributed to, both here and at TOP). A last practical point: the fact that all three first names share the same final letters make it easier to realise that someone's addressing me if they use either of the two I'm not expecting in any given situation.  |
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« Reply #42 on: 10:51:43, 09-07-2008 » |
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I find myself broadly agree with RD, HtHe and martle have had to say. But, strina, wouldn't your opinions about those things carry more weight if you did put your name to them? Otherwise, aren't they just those of yet another anonymous poster, of whom there are a very great number online. [insert something about the democratizing effect of pseudonyms/the internet here] And: what's wrong with being yet another anonymous poster? (I should probably say that, at least in the context of the internet, there's a certain difference between anonymity and pseudonymity; the latter at least allows for some measure of continuity between utterances). (Awkwardly, I feel compelled to mention that I did once, back in my teenage years, briefly sort of stalked a person I knew IRL on the internet using a pseudonym). |
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« Reply #43 on: 10:58:01, 09-07-2008 » |
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partly so I'm free to be (somewhat) honest about performances or recordings done by people I know. I'm in that situation as well - my attitude is that if I am going to express an opinion in any public arena on such things, I'll do it under my own name, or not at all. To be honest, I really despise all these multiple levels of falsehood you encounter in the music world, and all the bottom-kissing that goes with it (both in real life and on messageboards). But, strina, wouldn't your opinions about those things carry more weight if you did put your name to them? Otherwise, aren't they just those of yet another anonymous poster, of whom there are a very great number online. I suppose that's a risk, but would it really make a difference? On this board, people take or leave what I have to say based on having interacted with me and read my opinions over the course of months. It's up to all of you to decide if I'm talking rubbish, and up to me to convince you I'm not through what I say rather than who I am. If you want to find out more about "who I am," it's pretty easy to do. And I'm hardly a famous name that would make you do a double take. It's not like you've got Rachel Podger or Monica Huggett posting here. (not that I know of anyway...) I'm hardly a shrinking violet in the "real world". In retrospect, I've got myself into trouble by being too, um, forthright about certain things (and also by not quite "getting" cultural differences). While there's some work I don't mind losing, I see no point in antagonising my colleagues and potentially putting off people who don't yet know me by essentially publishing either semi-formed or highly critical opinions under my own name. Perhaps this also points up differences between playing primarily a solo instrument and playing primarily a section instrument. I'd love to have more solo and leading work, and I'm working on that. But most of my bread and butter - and quite a few wonderful musical experiences - comes from playing in a section. There's more room for diverse characters in a section than many people think. But not every leader/director I work with seems to appreciate that, so I sometimes understand it's part of my job to bite my tongue. As for bottom-kissing - I'd also rather have my real name one step removed from any gushing praise I wish to heap upon any of my colleagues. I've never been a great one for sucking up to authority, and it helps to have a small degree of anonymity the times I want to say how wonderful something is. |
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« Reply #44 on: 11:06:52, 09-07-2008 » |
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It also means I can tell anecdotes without compromising the privacy of the people involved – using my real name would obviously make it easy for mutual acquaintances to guess who they were. So what happens if your cover gets blown? |
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