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« Reply #4590 on: 13:42:57, 12-06-2008 » |
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Can we stop this now please and move on? Please don't pursue your agenda against Ian in the Happy Room John.
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« Reply #4591 on: 14:02:35, 12-06-2008 » |
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Yes, if people want to pursue this discussion, we could have a separate Body Art/Body Piercing thread or something along those lines.
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« Reply #4592 on: 14:19:24, 12-06-2008 » |
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a separate Body Art/Body Piercing thread or something along those lines.
Sorry Ian , but your use of the word lines in this context made me smile ! A
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Well, there you are.
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« Reply #4593 on: 14:20:10, 12-06-2008 » |
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I assure you I wasn't taking sides. I have nothing against Ian or his post at all, but as I said, I thought it was the wrong place.
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« Reply #4594 on: 14:29:09, 12-06-2008 » |
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I assure you I wasn't taking sides. I have nothing against Ian or his post at all, but as I said, I thought it was the wrong place.
Fair enough.
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« Reply #4595 on: 14:31:38, 12-06-2008 » |
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I'm happy that Antheil has more wit, passion and insight than you will ever find in The Daily Mail.
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« Reply #4596 on: 14:32:46, 12-06-2008 » |
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Personally, I have nothing against discussing Marks and Sparks wherever the thread wanders. As long as we don't get onto the subject of Muzak.
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« Reply #4597 on: 15:19:19, 12-06-2008 » |
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I'm not sure where to put this I have an interview for another health care job!!
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« Reply #4598 on: 16:03:13, 12-06-2008 » |
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Received cable today which makes me able to record cassettes into the computer. Some - ironically the most important to me personally - are beyond salvage, and the noise removal tool produces a noise similar to water in a plug-hole. But Charpentier Te Deum (complete with military tattoo at the start!) is going very well as I write.
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« Reply #4599 on: 16:19:56, 12-06-2008 » |
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Do you have variable settings for the cut-off point, eru? Sounds as if you're taking too much away: It's better to make several light passes rather than one heavy one, if you can.
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« Reply #4600 on: 16:36:42, 12-06-2008 » |
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Audacity isn't too good at that, Ron. There was quite a lot of noise to get rid of, so first I tried it at the default level of removal, and that removed the entire first minute of sound. So then I tried minimum level, which is when the gurgling effect was produced.
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« Reply #4601 on: 16:55:40, 12-06-2008 » |
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Don't have a deal of experience with Audacity, but perhaps it's not specialised enough for the job.
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« Reply #4602 on: 19:52:04, 12-06-2008 » |
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Eru,
I've had some success with Audacity for removing tape hiss, usually working with loud music that I'd recorded off the radio. Tape hiss is often fairly constant in volume and frequencies so I select as the sample just a few hundredths of a second of the hiss from a part before the music starts. And then 'Select All' and do the removal with the cursor at the left end, not extreme left but the next setting. I'm still using Audacity 1.0.0, I ought to try the latest.
I've not been doing any of that for a while since I had trouble with some bought classical tapes, with volume wavering and diminishing in the wav files I've made, particularly keyboard music, might be something to do with any Dolby NR used in the tape?
I've now got a decent Wharfedale cassette player deck (from Cash Converters) which has a selector for Dolby B or Dolby C or no Dolby for playing. I suppose if I know which Dolby was used to make a commercial cassette then I might get better results, for example the Jessye Norman cassette I have was recorded using Dolby B so I might try transferring that.
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« Reply #4603 on: 22:31:28, 12-06-2008 » |
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Since pre-recorded cassettes were recorded at high speed - typically 8x playback speed - on pretty standard tape stock, most of them were no great shakes to begin with, John. If they were pre-owned, then there's a distinct possibility that they were left in the machine occasionally, left near to televisions or loudspeakers, stretched in fast-winding and generally poorly treated. Most of them only ever started life as mid-fi, and more often than not subsequently deteriorated markedly.
Virtually all commercial pre-recorded tapes post 1974 were Dolby B encoded, but your problems might still happen even were you to play an individually recorded Dolby C tape made on a another machine. For the system to work accurately, the recording and playback machines need to be working at exactly the same speed, since the operation relies on an exact frequency match, and even a small variation in speed will throw the calibration out: to make matters worse still, not only the recording and playback machines but the cassettes themselves and the variations in tension that they cause the tape to undergo make it a very hit-and-miss system.
That there were machines that managed to achieve decent results from cassettes is one of the miracles of late C20th design and engineering, but most of them cost considerably more than your Wharfedale deck.
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« Reply #4604 on: 23:10:29, 12-06-2008 » |
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Thanks Ron, I don't have many commercially-produced tapes but some are of less-common works that I wanted to transfer. I do have many tapes of jazz and the like home-recorded from Radio 2 years ago, and these seem to transfer very well, though much of that has been issued on CD now and I don't expect I'll transfer much more of that. But why should I transfer them, the tapes sound very good anyway played on the Wharfedale and through my amp! John W
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