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Your brother is undoubtedly right Mary. However buying the stuff makes me feel as if I'm at least having a go to try and feel better. It's like cosmetic face creams. We all know they don't work - they can't possibly - but we all buy them anyway. I think it's psychological myself.
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« Reply #121 on: 09:34:01, 09-07-2007 » |
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I ask them in Health shops and they usually give me something. "Give"? They usually have just the thing they recommend you to buy   . |
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« Reply #122 on: 09:36:18, 09-07-2007 » |
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Blocked nose that feels like an infected sinus, and is giving me a headache. Grump.
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« Reply #123 on: 09:46:23, 09-07-2007 » |
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Blocked nose that feels like an infected sinus, and is giving me a headache. Grump.
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Horrible feeling that. I've got a sore nose that looks like a beacon from constant blowing but better that than sinusitis. Of course, vain little me is just fed up because I can't put eye make-up on because of streaming eyes.  |
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« Reply #124 on: 10:11:48, 09-07-2007 » |
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no help from drs! paracetamol and rest is what they recommended, but how can you rest when it feels like you're swallowing knives?
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The latest research suggests that echinacea can be efficacious if taken when you have a cold, even if you've not been taking it previously. Quite a few people suggest two weeks on and two weeks off if you're intending to take it regularly. And if your sore throat's a problem at night, sucking a cube of the concentrated block you make party jellies from last thing before going to bed helps to coat and soothe the throat.
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« Reply #127 on: 11:16:10, 09-07-2007 » |
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Your brother is undoubtedly right Mary. However buying the stuff makes me feel as if I'm at least having a go to try and feel better. It's like cosmetic face creams. We all know they don't work - they can't possibly - but we all buy them anyway. I think it's psychological myself.
I'm with Mary's brother too - and note in passing that alternative therapy is big business (ever met a poor alternative therapist?). But I think you're right about the psychological effect. There's a compelling view suggesting that the placebo effect is a lot stronger than some might think - http://www.badscience.net/?p=164 |
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As a GP friend of mine has pointed out, since in tests the placebo effect often achieves results comparable to, if not better than, the bona fide drugs it's being measured against, perhaps it's an option which the health service should examine more closley...
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« Reply #129 on: 12:14:46, 09-07-2007 » |
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It's absolutely true that the psychological effect is very, very important, and my brother (I've just mistyped that as "my bother") acknowledges that - so long as you aren't too ill, that is! I've been known to buy the odd alternative remedy myself, though I'd have to hide it from him  . He's also concerned that quite a few of these "remedies" haven't been tested at all, so no-one knows whether they have any ill-effects, or combine badly with other things. |
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« Reply #130 on: 13:00:27, 09-07-2007 » |
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My brother, who is an international expert on the effect of medicines, thinks that most alternative remedies are a con, and that people spend money on them, and companies make vast profits out of them for no good reason. However, what really bothers him is that they are sometimes available on the NHS.
The bit that bothers me is that I have tried homeopathy for minor stuff, in a spirit of true skepticism, and was surprised to find that it had the effects predicted. I still refer to homeopathic treatments as "nothing pills" though. Sorry, sidetracked. The bothering bit is that nobody has come up with a convincing reason why they should have any effect (although placebo effect probably counts for something). Tonybob - I remember having a terrific sore throat some years ago, and found an OTC remedy that helped wonderfully. I think it was called Merocaine, but not sure if it is still available. |
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« Reply #131 on: 13:09:59, 09-07-2007 » |
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My brother, who is an international expert on the effect of medicines, thinks that most alternative remedies are a con, and that people spend money on them, and companies make vast profits out of them for no good reason. However, what really bothers him is that they are sometimes available on the NHS.
Indeed. I personally would have no such trouble with that myself, excepting that they are not held up to standards in any way comparable to the (fantastically expensive) ones set for proper modern medicine. Such costs would be prohibitive, of course, but, given that without this testing people have really bugger all reason to claim *anything*, I would warmly welcome it myself. (of course, I would imagine that the vast majority would not make it through; but this happens also (albeit to a lesser extent) with real medicine!) I myself would never sign up to health-insurance that offered alternative medicine coverage; the thought of financing these snake-oil dealers is abhorrent to me. |
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« Reply #132 on: 13:42:14, 09-07-2007 » |
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As a complementary practitioner I guess it behooves me to throw in my pennorth ..... May I suggest a small experiment that your brother might like to try out, Mary? Tell him to buy a bottle of Lavender essential oil (not the rubbish from the Body Shop please!) and then when he or anyone else in the household burns themself, apply the Lavender liberally. It prevents blistering and scarring, promotes healing and the pain subsides in a matter of minutes. Fact, not placebo. Then again, he couold try Peppermint oil for headaches - I`ve seen it sort out headaches resulting from a brain tumour. Not cure the tumour, I hasten to add, but certainly alleviate the symptom.
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« Reply #133 on: 13:43:58, 09-07-2007 » |
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Mort, any tricks for my nose?
And happy birthday if I havenly missed it....
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« Reply #134 on: 13:47:03, 09-07-2007 » |
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As a complementary practitioner I guess it behooves me to throw in my pennorth ..... May I suggest a small experiment that your brother might like to try out, Mary? Tell him to buy a bottle of Lavender essential oil (not the rubbish from the Body Shop please!) and then when he or anyone else in the household burns themself, apply the Lavender liberally. It prevents blistering and scarring, promotes healing and the pain subsides in a matter of minutes. Fact, not placebo. Then again, he couold try Peppermint oil for headaches - I`ve seen it sort out headaches resulting from a brain tumour. Not cure the tumour, I hasten to add, but certainly alleviate the symptom.
If there's no lavender oil, try honey on burns instead instead: it's wonderful. |
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