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Morticia
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« Reply #135 on: 14:00:19, 09-07-2007 »

Very true, Ron. Especially Manuka honey.
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« Reply #136 on: 14:05:21, 09-07-2007 »

As a complementary practitioner I guess it behooves me to throw in my pennorth ..... May I suggest a small experiment that your brother might like to try out, Mary?  Tell him to buy a bottle of Lavender essential oil (not the rubbish from the Body Shop please!) and then when he or anyone else in the household burns themself, apply the Lavender liberally. It prevents blistering and scarring, promotes healing and the pain subsides in a matter of minutes. Fact, not placebo. Then again, he couold try Peppermint oil for headaches - I`ve seen it sort out headaches resulting from a brain tumour. Not cure the tumour, I hasten to add, but certainly alleviate the symptom.

Oh! Hello mort; hope you're healing up well : )

In the interest of science and all that, and given that when I look it up on the internet I find zero info on tests, I'm going to give your suggestion (though it was pointed at Mary) a try; will do some baking tonight; that always gets the best results! (our oven gloves are rather moth-eaten).
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« Reply #137 on: 14:13:44, 09-07-2007 »

Yes, Mort, no harm in using these things for small problems, even though there are probably more efficient things available. (Cold water is efficient for small burns, and it's free - well, free at the point of use, anyway.) Honey has a long history as a healing agent, I believe. Sticky, though.

An interesting and entertaining cure for headaches can be seen in A's Message #2151 in One to a Million.

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« Reply #138 on: 14:48:27, 09-07-2007 »

As a complementary practitioner I guess it behooves me to throw in my pennorth ..... May I suggest a small experiment that your brother might like to try out, Mary?  Tell him to buy a bottle of Lavender essential oil (not the rubbish from the Body Shop please!) and then when he or anyone else in the household burns themself, apply the Lavender liberally. It prevents blistering and scarring, promotes healing and the pain subsides in a matter of minutes. Fact, not placebo. Then again, he couold try Peppermint oil for headaches - I`ve seen it sort out headaches resulting from a brain tumour. Not cure the tumour, I hasten to add, but certainly alleviate the symptom.

I would not dispute this for a moment.  There is a world of difference between the use of natural remedies like lavender oil, which can be shown to produce effects under controlled conditions, and the peddling of pure quackery like homeopathy (I am trying to avoid the term pseudo-science because homeopathy doesn't even aspire to the pseudo), which has no scientific basis and has repeatedly been shown to perform no better than placebo*.

There is also a fundamental ethical problem with placebos - which is that, in effect, the issuer is deceiving the patient unless they believe in it themsevles.  While it is tempting to see homeopaths and crystal-wavers as medicine's useful idiots, alleviating pain through their own scientific ignorance, I have a feeling that it is all a lot more cynical than that.

* for an example that tries really hard to be balanced, see   http://www.dcscience.net/homeopathy_paper_for_nhs_commissioners.pdf
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« Reply #139 on: 15:28:20, 09-07-2007 »

As a complementary practitioner I guess it behooves me to throw in my pennorth ..... May I suggest a small experiment that your brother might like to try out, Mary?  Tell him to buy a bottle of Lavender essential oil (not the rubbish from the Body Shop please!) and then when he or anyone else in the household burns themself, apply the Lavender liberally. It prevents blistering and scarring, promotes healing and the pain subsides in a matter of minutes. Fact, not placebo. Then again, he couold try Peppermint oil for headaches - I`ve seen it sort out headaches resulting from a brain tumour. Not cure the tumour, I hasten to add, but certainly alleviate the symptom.

I would not dispute this for a moment.  There is a world of difference between the use of natural remedies like lavender oil, which can be shown to produce effects under controlled conditions, and the peddling of pure quackery like homeopathy (I am trying to avoid the term pseudo-science because homeopathy doesn't even aspire to the pseudo), which has no scientific basis and has repeatedly been shown to perform no better than placebo*.

I am curious to know where this has been shown.  A quick look just brings up some paper linking the use of lavender oils on young boys to cases of prepubertal gynecomastia. (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/356/5/479).   
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« Reply #140 on: 15:39:07, 09-07-2007 »

Mort, any tricks for my nose?

And happy birthday if I havenly missed it....

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Usurping Morticiaa, who I hope will spare me the lemons, have you tried inhaling a condom through one nostril and then expectorating it? I'm told some people can do it as a party trick, but have never seen it done.

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« Reply #141 on: 15:40:54, 09-07-2007 »

As a complementary practitioner I guess it behooves me to throw in my pennorth ..... May I suggest a small experiment that your brother might like to try out, Mary?  Tell him to buy a bottle of Lavender essential oil (not the rubbish from the Body Shop please!) and then when he or anyone else in the household burns themself, apply the Lavender liberally. It prevents blistering and scarring, promotes healing and the pain subsides in a matter of minutes. Fact, not placebo. Then again, he couold try Peppermint oil for headaches - I`ve seen it sort out headaches resulting from a brain tumour. Not cure the tumour, I hasten to add, but certainly alleviate the symptom.

I would not dispute this for a moment.  There is a world of difference between the use of natural remedies like lavender oil, which can be shown to produce effects under controlled conditions, and the peddling of pure quackery like homeopathy (I am trying to avoid the term pseudo-science because homeopathy doesn't even aspire to the pseudo), which has no scientific basis and has repeatedly been shown to perform no better than placebo*.

I am curious to know where this has been shown.  A quick look just brings up some paper linking the use of lavender oils on young boys to cases of prepubertal gynecomastia. (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/356/5/479).   

Apologies - "can" should be "could"
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« Reply #142 on: 15:42:39, 09-07-2007 »

Usurping Morticiaa, who I hope will spare me the lemons, have you tried inhaling a condom through one nostril and then expectorating it? I'm told some people can do it as a party trick, but have never seen it done.

I suppose the real trick would be not expectorating but applying it.  Shocked
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« Reply #143 on: 15:54:20, 09-07-2007 »

Usurping Morticiaa, who I hope will spare me the lemons, have you tried inhaling a condom through one nostril and then expectorating it? I'm told some people can do it as a party trick, but have never seen it done.

I suppose the real trick would be not expectorating but applying it.  Shocked

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« Reply #144 on: 15:54:46, 09-07-2007 »

have you tried inhaling a condom through one nostril and then expectorating it? I'm told some people can do it as a party trick, but have never seen it done.

Thanks for the tip, Kitty! I've got to go to a party for the Turkish Ambassador later this week. The conversation often wanes at these things. I'll definitely give it a try.
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« Reply #145 on: 15:58:39, 09-07-2007 »

The following are NOT recommended for kitty's party trick.

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« Reply #146 on: 16:56:10, 09-07-2007 »


Inhale and lift your right heel
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« Reply #147 on: 17:31:58, 09-07-2007 »

noi'mfinethanks.
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« Reply #148 on: 18:07:49, 09-07-2007 »

Look what I just found over at the other place!  Funny old world indeed.
http://www.cygnus-books.co.uk/features/hidden-messages-water-masaru-emoto.htm
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« Reply #149 on: 19:39:14, 09-07-2007 »

I lurve the name of the publisher, "Beyond Words Publishing". I can't help admiring that somehow.
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