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« Reply #6045 on: 20:09:59, 31-05-2008 »

It's a while since we had a Virgin Media grump on here, but .....

Not long ago, said Virgin Media supplied me with a replacement set-top box.  So here I was this evening, MD machine at the ready to capture the Minotaur, when I discovered that the new box ... has no audio line out socketAngry Angry

So - given that I live in a place where the writ of FM (let alone DAB) does not run - I am reduced to listening through BBC iplayer, dropouts and all.

Infuriating - since what I've heard so far sounds pretty wonderful.

Annoying, I agree, but not necessarily insurmountable. I take it the box has at least one SCART socket. If it has two, you can easily take the audio from that (SCART to phono adaptors are pretty cheap, and readily obtained). If there is but one SCART socket, just connect a SCART splitter box to it and take your audio feed via that.
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« Reply #6046 on: 20:13:12, 31-05-2008 »

a soprano lad

Otherwise known as a treble?

How many units is that? You've got to keep count of them, or so HMG says. Wink
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« Reply #6047 on: 20:21:54, 31-05-2008 »

a soprano lad

Otherwise known as a treble?

No, I'd say he was higher than a treble  Smiley

And now heard a 12 year-old girl, mezzo or more likely contralto. Wonderful.

And the string quartet DID peform Karl Jenkin's funny string work!


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« Reply #6048 on: 20:26:18, 31-05-2008 »

a soprano lad

Otherwise known as a treble?

No, I'd say he was higher than a treble  Smiley

And now heard a 12 year-old girl, mezzo or more likely contralto. Wonderful.

And the string quartet DID peform Karl Jenkin's funny string work!




The Wiki says no. Wink
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« Reply #6049 on: 20:46:47, 31-05-2008 »

It's a while since we had a Virgin Media grump on here, but .....

Not long ago, said Virgin Media supplied me with a replacement set-top box.  So here I was this evening, MD machine at the ready to capture the Minotaur, when I discovered that the new box ... has no audio line out socketAngry Angry

So - given that I live in a place where the writ of FM (let alone DAB) does not run - I am reduced to listening through BBC iplayer, dropouts and all.

Infuriating - since what I've heard so far sounds pretty wonderful.


Annoying, I agree, but not necessarily insurmountable. I take it the box has at least one SCART socket. If it has two, you can easily take the audio from that (SCART to phono adaptors are pretty cheap, and readily obtained). If there is but one SCART socket, just connect a SCART splitter box to it and take your audio feed via that.

Thanks for this, Bryn.  There are two SCART sockets, so I'll get myself a SCART to phono adaptor - in time for next week's showing on BBC4.
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« Reply #6050 on: 21:16:48, 31-05-2008 »

I'll get myself a SCART to phono adaptor - in time for next week's showing on BBC4.


Make sure you specify its purpose when you buy it, pw. You don't want to end up with one that is intended for transferring video and audio from a camcorder. You might be best getting one designed to deal with both input and output (they often come with a switch built into the adaptor so you can use it for sending the signal in either direction.

Here's a particularly cheap one, though it might be better to pay a bit more for the chance of greater reliability. Wink

This one, at the bottom of the page linked to, is the sort I originally had in mind:

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« Reply #6051 on: 15:04:35, 01-06-2008 »

Grumpy today because of having been given wrong information about buses from Oslo to Oslo Torp airport (which is miles away from Oslo city centre, two hours drive), and so have to hang around for about 7 hours at the airport for the later flight. Still, at least there's free internet access and a power supply - gives some respite from the mountain of essays I'm marking at the moment!

Rant for today is about the really poor standard of English you find from today's undergraduates (at least at some of the places I've taught at). And about trendy educational systems that somehow don't think learning is that important.

Turning into a real Grumpy Old Man here.....
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« Reply #6052 on: 18:47:52, 01-06-2008 »

Rant for today is about the really poor standard of English you find from today's undergraduates (at least at some of the places I've taught at). And about trendy educational systems that somehow don't think learning is that important.

Turning into a real Grumpy Old Man here.....

Feel quite free to expand, Ian, otherwise I might. It's the season of bringing home piles and piles of brown envelopes for those of us in the HE industry, jam-packed with essays, portfolios, dissertations etc. Doing so much marking in such a short space of time is in itself demoralising (or can be) - you feel as if you're becoming a grading machine - but, when that's coupled with such a large proportion of indifferent and badly-written work... well, it's all too easy to become -

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« Reply #6053 on: 19:36:19, 01-06-2008 »

Well, by the time I've finished one batch this week, I will have marked about 80 essays, 50 pieces of documentation, and 20 dissertations (around 10 000 words each). And with two big concerts slap bang in the middle as well. It certainly gets a bit much, and rather industrial in terms of the marking. But it has to be done. I try and give very detailed feedback, including on basic issues of style and grammar (and there are many), but that takes an awful lot of time. Various grumps: why oh why oh why will students rely on the notoriously unreliable Wikipedia, with no corroborating sources? It's all right for looking something up informally, and even for forums like this, but not for an academic essay. And why does their internet bibliography (much of which they've clearly stumbled upon by chance) usually exceed the number of books they've consulted, by some margin? And why do they not learn basic principles of how you reference sources in an essay (we give them clear guidelines on this), including the use of 'ibid' in footnotes, the fact that you need to refer to your sources within the body of your main text, the fact that unusual information at the very least needs a footnote, and so on. And why can't they learn the use of a semicolon, rather than constructing these ungrammatical sentences consisting of bits just placed end to end, or even how to use commas properly?

Use of quotes can be bizarre: some, having taken plagiarism warnings a little too extremely, even write 'X was 'born in 1939'[footnote] and he composed this piece 'between 1967 and 1969'[footnote], which is for 'clarinet, horn and trombone'[footnote]' or the like. Others quote unremarkable text verbatim and in quotes, rather than trying to paraphrase it (though the contrast between this and their own writing style can be painfully apparent).

But there are some interesting essays amongst them, and a wider interest in certain things than I'd expected. Documentation of various performance/site-specific projects has been very interesting indeed - extremely pleased when, for example, I find one person locating some of Kagel's work in the context of the theatre of Grotowski and Artaud (with pertinent quotations from either figure). Otherwise, there seems to be a certain median standard that occurs - an awful lot of marks fall in the 60-70 (2:1) range (martle, do you find this as well?).

Some very choice moments: one piece of documentation that was in the form of an envelope containing some onion peelings, a newspaper cutting, and a CD-ROM, and one 10 000 word dissertation all about performance practice in John Cage's 4'33" (for which this student's final performance consisted of three different renditions), all taken very seriously (rightly and done well). And those amusing howlers you get in essays: one of my favourites this year was 'to all intensive purposes'.

OH, AND CAN WE MAKE IT AN EXPELLABLE OFFENCE TO GET ITS AND IT'S MIXED UP?Huh!!!!!!

[EDIT - my earlier comment about trendy educational systems was referring to secondary schools and the teaching there these days, not to higher education]
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« Reply #6054 on: 19:46:37, 01-06-2008 »

Otherwise, there seems to be a certain median standard that occurs - an awful lot of marks fall in the 60-70 (2:1) range (martle, do you find this as well?).

Yes, although that's a pretty good median. And I'd agree and grump in sympathy with everything else you say here, Ian, especially about anything on the internet (not just Wiki) implicitly carrying as much authority as books and articles that have been painstakingly put together (for the most part) and subjected to peer review and careful editing. One thing that annoys me is citing 'Grove', as if 'Grove' weren't put together by actual people...  Angry

On the plus side, I've seen some truly outstanding work as well this year, in amongst the dross, and have dished out two or three marks of 80+!
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« Reply #6055 on: 19:49:00, 01-06-2008 »

Your last statement, Ian, gives me the impression that such numbers as 60-70 would have been arrived at by anyone else grading the essays. If anyone has time, I'd be interested whether there's a system or at least a set of guidelines by which you come up with such (percentages?) numbers.

I realize its probably the most frustrating part of your job, but I think every occupation has it's sources of frustration.
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« Reply #6056 on: 19:49:53, 01-06-2008 »

Reminds me of another choice moment: a bibliography that had one book (not referenced and only mentioned because it was on the Wiki page, clearly hadn't been read), another entry that said 'Wiki page on ......' without even the URL (let alone date accessed), and the third said 'A-Level Course Notes'.

TF, the standard marking system is as follows:

-30 Fail
30-40 Pass
40-50 Third
50-60 Two-Two
60-70 Two-One
70+ First

Very few people go under 40 unless they've not submitted or had a late submission (we have a system where late submissions are capped at 40), and it's rare to have anything above 80 (it would have to be truly outstanding, even of a post-graduate level, for that). A lot fall into the 2:2 area, so that the difference betwee, say, 61 and 68 is actually very significant indeed, and there are many debates about whether something should be 64 or 66, and so on.
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« Reply #6057 on: 19:50:42, 01-06-2008 »

I realize its probably the most frustrating part of your job, but I think every occupation has it's sources of frustration.

Turfers, you're fooling no-one.

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« Reply #6058 on: 19:56:04, 01-06-2008 »

I realize its probably the most frustrating part of your job, but I think every occupation has it's sources of frustration.

Turfers, you're fooling no-one.

 Kiss

Not even with:
I realize its probably the most frustrating part of your job, but I think every occupation has it's sources of frustration.
Huh Kiss

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« Reply #6059 on: 19:57:23, 01-06-2008 »

Your last statement, Ian, gives me the impression that such numbers as 60-70 would have been arrived at by anyone else grading the essays. If anyone has time, I'd be interested whether there's a system or at least a set of guidelines by which you come up with such (percentages?) numbers.


Turf-guy, we still all (all??) operate a double-marking system whereby two internal examiners have to agree marks (even if the second merely samples the batch) and an external examiner has to overview the marks of each assessment. Most courses have to have explicit 'learning outcomes' and objectives by which a grade can be measured, and often an overall grade is made up of percentage breakdowns of individual qualities (presentation, coherence of argument etc. etc. - although I dislike that approach personally).

Oh. Just seen your last one. Very funny. I was fooled. But I've got ITS blindness now...  Tongue
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