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« Reply #6330 on: 14:05:09, 18-06-2008 »

I can't sleep if there's music. Music will get me close to sleep but if I actually want to sleep then I have to turn it off. I'd have got up and thumped the apocryphal harpsichord!
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« Reply #6331 on: 14:17:39, 18-06-2008 »

I had a great night - we have a brand new mattress, and it is FAB!

Didn't get to bed until 1am tho' as I'd been over to Newquay to watch my delicous man in an amateur play he's in....it's great fun. Nearly half way thru its 10week run (Tue & Wed each week for 10 weeks).
"Laying the Ghost" by Simon Williams.
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« Reply #6332 on: 15:20:34, 18-06-2008 »

how am I supposed to sleep with the dawn chorus going on?

f***ing BIRDS! SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP!!!

... as Messiaen might have put it at 5am.
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« Reply #6333 on: 15:43:42, 18-06-2008 »

(that was in fact pretty much the time he went out to listen to them, or even a little earlier, but I suppose you know that...)

I can't sleep if there's music. Music will get me close to sleep but if I actually want to sleep then I have to turn it off. I'd have got up and thumped the apocryphal harpsichord!
It was to ease the long watches of the night though wasn't it, not to put him to sleep?

I had several months of really crêpe sleep a couple of years back. I couldn't get to sleep without music once various unhelpful thoughts had taken hold, which was pretty well all the time. Had playlists on my phone entitled zzz and zzz2 with quality soothing morsels by Mozart, Schütz, Byrd and Dowland. The Tallis Lamingtons were also helpful...

I find eucalyptus oil useful too.
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« Reply #6334 on: 17:12:30, 18-06-2008 »

I find that the world is smaller and thus more annoying than I thought possible.
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« Reply #6335 on: 17:43:10, 18-06-2008 »

It's good for one's mental health, too - helps with that tendency to turn things over obsessively.

There are those of us whose job it indeed is to turn things over obsessively. Is that an impediment to sleep? It sure as heck is. I woke up today in such a grumpily ranting mood that I felt I shouldn't post here for fear of seeming an aggressively self-pitying bore (or more of one than usual). However, I paid a visit to the gym and on returning home sat down and wrote another "movement" of this thing I'm working on, it's only twenty seconds long but every little bit counts.

Lamingtons were also helpful...



Quote from: ibid.
I find eucalyptus oil useful too.

Millions of sleepy koalas can't be wrong! Where do you put it though?
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« Reply #6336 on: 17:45:29, 18-06-2008 »

I felt I shouldn't post here for fear of seeming an aggressively self-pitying bore (or more of one than usual).

Doesn't stop me...
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« Reply #6337 on: 17:59:18, 18-06-2008 »

Quote from: ibid.
I find eucalyptus oil useful too.
Millions of sleepy koalas can't be wrong! Where do you put it though?

Assuming, possibly rashly, the question to have been intended seriously Wink: I put a few drops on a handkerchief and leave it within inhaling range.
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« Reply #6338 on: 18:11:16, 18-06-2008 »

           
Right, relaxing routine. Think of each part of body in turn. Toezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Very glad to hear you got some sleep last night, Mary.
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« Reply #6339 on: 18:26:34, 18-06-2008 »

I don't really believe all these things about lavender and so on - if they really worked there wouldn't be an insomnia problem -  but I was inspired to go into the garden last night and pick some, and I put it inside the pillow case. Perhaps it did help - who knows? It smelt nice, anyway.

Glad you slept better Mary, might be worth trying the lavender again?  It seems to work for me.  I think the problem is the light mornings (and the bluddy magpies clog dancing on the roof and the raucous crows) but strangely enough another thing that works for me is leaving a very soft light on.  Perhaps that's a childhood comfort thing - when the landing light was left on so the bogeyman under the bed wouldn't get you?  Did anyone else check under the bed to see if he was there?
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« Reply #6340 on: 18:37:15, 18-06-2008 »

I still do Grin but he'd never be able to squeeze inbetween the dust bunnies! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6341 on: 18:45:13, 18-06-2008 »

another thing that works for me is leaving a very soft light on. 

Maybe that goes with the music idea or the comforting smell idea... some unconfronting, relatively static sensory experience to distract from things which keep you awake?
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« Reply #6342 on: 18:54:28, 18-06-2008 »

I still do Grin but he'd never be able to squeeze inbetween the dust bunnies! Roll Eyes

Dust bunnies?  Also Deadly Killers Mort.



Strange,  but true.  The Bogeyman appears in almost every culture, someone who harms or kidnaps children in some way, I certainly remember not being able to sleep and quaking in fear because of the Bogeyman who might be under the bed.  Personally, I blame the parents.

Ollie, I suspect you are spot on there, comfort, nothing out there to harm you, safeness, possibly control because with the light on there are no nasty shadows threatening?  And the music, it's like "la la la, I'm not listening" isn't it?
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« Reply #6343 on: 18:58:35, 18-06-2008 »


Dust bunnies?  Also Deadly Killers Mort.

Oh shoot! You mean that I'm going to have to hoover under the bed? Tcha. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6344 on: 19:00:42, 18-06-2008 »

I can't sleep if there's music. Music will get me close to sleep but if I actually want to sleep then I have to turn it off. I'd have got up and thumped the apocryphal harpsichord!

And then there's the nightmare of getting a piece of music into your head that just goes around and around and keeps you awake - an experience I had one particularly gruesome night with the first movement of Walton's First Symphony ...
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