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Isn't the one on the right Ernst?  OK, it IS a cartoon of Weber, apparently in the process of inventing the conductor's baton?? John W |
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« Reply #391 on: 10:23:01, 10-04-2007 » |
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Isn't it Weber at Covent Garden, rehearsing Der Freischutz? It was said that he used a bit of rolled-up manuscript paper to conduct rather than direct from the piano.
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« Reply #392 on: 10:32:14, 10-04-2007 » |
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Yes IGI.
I don't believe my comment about him inventing the baton is correct. I've read such a thing existed in the 15thC. But usage in London was introduced, apparently, by Spohr, and Mendelssohn did same in Leipzig.
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« Reply #393 on: 10:37:28, 10-04-2007 » |
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But Weber was seen as one of the first specialist conductors: http://www.cph.rcm.ac.uk/Tour/Pages/Weber.htmCertainly, composers long ago would beat time with a staff - wasn't that the end of Lully, when he stabbed his foot and got gangrene?! |
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« Reply #394 on: 10:46:22, 10-04-2007 » |
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I found this print on the site of the Linden Baroque Orchestra but they don't source it so I don't know Who? is featured. As to what, the instruments, well I think there's a flauto traverso, a bassoon, a recorder and an oboe. I dare not say also violin and cello, so would any of our early music fans offer a more accurate description of the stringed instruments? Oh, and a harpsichord.  The fellow right in the middle does not appear to play anything, maybe he's singing? John W |
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« Reply #395 on: 11:08:08, 10-04-2007 » |
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The fellow right in the middle does not appear to play anything, maybe he's singing?
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« Reply #396 on: 11:36:03, 10-04-2007 » |
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Looks to me like Andrew Lloyd von Weber playing the spoons.
My word, it does! Nice contact on the hip bone, or the coat buttons? |
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« Reply #397 on: 10:44:38, 11-04-2007 » |
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Well, I think the fellow out front is playing a bass viola da gamba, like this one circa 1728, though in the print the fingerboard doesn't come down very far??  The other stringed instrument looks to me to be a viola type but much older style?? Maybe the artist was not very good  John W |
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« Reply #398 on: 10:59:37, 11-04-2007 » |
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Isn't your photo of a contrabass viol, not a bass?
I was assuming that the string instruments in the engraving are a badly-drawn violin and cello, given that so many other things are out of scale, like the flattened harpsichord... and whichever instrument the string player in front is playing, his chances of reading the music from a postcard-sized music stand halfway across the room must be quite small!
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« Reply #399 on: 11:21:21, 11-04-2007 » |
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Richard,
Looking at the position of the knees, looks like the instrument has a tail-pin or leg, which would suggest a proper cello and not a viol??
We had an early instrument expert on here early days, ciaconna I think, whatever happened to him/her?
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« Reply #400 on: 12:17:41, 11-04-2007 » |
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But baroque cellos didn't have tailpins...
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« Reply #401 on: 12:33:49, 11-04-2007 » |
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But baroque cellos didn't have tailpins...
That's right Richard, and I now read that it doesn't need to be gripped between the legs: http://www.cello.org/heaven/baroque/baroque.htmSo the print may have accuracy with regard to the bass viol or cello but that violin does look odd for circa. 1720's John W |
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« Reply #402 on: 13:19:58, 11-04-2007 » |
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Remember that Elgar WhoWhatWhere? the statue and fountain thing? Well, here's something from Germany, no statue but a mobile/kinetic structure in homage to .... ? The building has his name too but you can't read it  So Who? What? Where? John W |
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« Reply #403 on: 14:54:34, 11-04-2007 » |
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Another question!  That's nice: drinking a cup of tea while listening to Stravinsky's Petrushka, played by L'Orchestre de la Suisse Romande. How interesting those DECCA liner notes can be! But who is this man? |
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« Reply #404 on: 14:55:57, 11-04-2007 » |
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robert craft's dad?
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