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Tommo, don't worry. By extensive research I can attest that Bryn is fighting back the barbarians on the Islamophobe thread over at TOP. He won't mind... go on...  What is the name of the Islamophobe thread on TOP, and on which sub-board is it? |
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« Reply #1156 on: 09:03:39, 22-06-2007 » |
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Ian (are you sure about this??), it's in the 'Performance' board, and the thread is currently called 'No Discussion Title' (since the first message was modded - although I believe it still exists as a 'quote' somewhere further into the thread.
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« Reply #1157 on: 11:22:23, 22-06-2007 » |
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I've seen it now and posted a couple of things there (there is another thread featuring some hideous Islamophobe, also). Vile stuff, but Bryn's doing an excellent job. There are much better reasons to criticise Tavener! Seriously, have others found (as I have  ) how Islamophobia has become increasingly respectable in 'polite society' in recent times? The situation is even worse in the US, I think, but certainly it's a shocking tendency here. |
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« Reply #1158 on: 14:36:27, 22-06-2007 » |
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Seriously, have others found (as I have ) how Islamophobia has become increasingly respectable in 'polite society' in recent times? The situation is even worse in the US, I think, but certainly it's a shocking tendency here. What evidence do you have that it's worse in the US? US press toward the Muslims is, on a subtle level, problematic, but tolerance of the Muslim community is not worse here than in e.g. the UK where many 'natives' seem to feel that their communities are threatened by the people with other customs. It's in Germany that one hears long and spirited debates about the politics of integration and prominent doomsayers on said subject. In the US, we have our holy rollers, and, as I said, some backward politicians, but this can't be a very simple reflection of society as a whole. That's just my impression, I don't really know; I just wanted to see you back up your claim that it's worse in the U.S. |
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« Reply #1159 on: 14:57:21, 22-06-2007 » |
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Seriously, have others found (as I have ) how Islamophobia has become increasingly respectable in 'polite society' in recent times? The situation is even worse in the US, I think, but certainly it's a shocking tendency here. What evidence do you have that it's worse in the US? US press toward the Muslims is, on a subtle level, problematic, but tolerance of the Muslim community is not worse here than in e.g. the UK where many 'natives' seem to feel that their communities are threatened by the people with other customs. It's in Germany that one hears long and spirited debates about the politics of integration and prominent doomsayers on said subject. In the US, we have our holy rollers, and, as I said, some backward politicians, but this can't be a very simple reflection of society as a whole. That's just my impression, I don't really know; I just wanted to see you back up your claim that it's worse in the U.S. It's just a general impression I get from reading lots of the US papers and so on. It's different to the situation in various European countries in that obviously the US has a different tradition with respect to immigration; there isn't a sense of a recently moved community 'apart', as some would view Asians in Britains, North Africans in France, Indonesians in Holland, Turks in Germany, etc. The idea of a 'host' and 'immigrant' community maybe does not exist in quite the same way in the US nowadays. However, talk of the 'Clash of Civilisations', talk of how Europe is going to be run by Muslims in 50 years (totally ridiculous), the assumption that all of Europe is deeply anti-semitic because of the influence of muslims, is for the most part the preserve of the far right (and Melanie Philips) over here, whereas it seems quite respectable within the mainstream in the US. You can find a respected historian (and one who is influential upon politicians) such as the odious Bernard Lewis spouting all such things (I know Lewis is British by birth, but he has lived and worked in the US for three decades and is a naturalised citizen). Also, the role of the Israeli lobby in stoking Islamphobia shouldn't be underestimated. |
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« Reply #1160 on: 15:42:21, 22-06-2007 » |
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OK -- I'm satisfied. But words like "better" and "worse" are too easy to toss around without context. Thanks for providing one for your observation.
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All the suddenly I am going to a wedding. Well, it is not really a wedding because they signed the register yesterday, but it is called a party. But at the same time it is a wedding. They have a son who is 10 months old. I am so priviledged to be invited. I think they are local celebrities. I have to get back on time for TP return from Italy. I am so excited. The last time I was to a wedding was twenty years ago. I am frantic and can not decide what to wear. Well, I am not the bride so whatever I wear will be ok.  |
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« Reply #1162 on: 16:20:41, 23-06-2007 » |
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When is the wedding party? Do you have to decide what to wear quickly? I hate having to worry about clothes. I have a house full of them, and most of them never seem right. I have a couple of favourite summer outfits, and a few favourite winter outfits, and I hate everything else! Winter I find much easier than summer. Summer is for the young. (I've said all this before, I know.)
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« Reply #1163 on: 17:29:33, 23-06-2007 » |
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The wedding is at 7 o'clock, but it is not a formal wedding, but a party. Now people are young until they are 80 plus and then they are older. (This is my new view on things). Actually young people can look well dressed badly, but middle aged people (majority of us) should dress really well because it makes one look much better (this is my new attitude). I have two outfits to choose from. One is in gold color top and a skirt and the other is lilac colour. I have to decide now. This is painful, but I have to do it.  This is not what I am going to wear. |
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« Reply #1164 on: 12:07:32, 25-06-2007 » |
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Have a great time, I'm sure you will look wonderful when you have decided on your outfit.
I'm terrible with clothes, I've got masses of them, I'm completely addicted to charity shops, and I buy wonderful quality things for about 1/10 of the retail price....but being such wonderful quality they last for ages, so my wardrobe grows ever larger !!
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« Reply #1165 on: 14:28:07, 25-06-2007 » |
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There are charity shops here too.
My friend got herself candle from Green (famous patery) for 1 euro. I got a nice small collecting bear with a doll for 1 euro. The bear is by Laura Bearinham. It is wearing beautiful dress and is holding a doll. It has a bow on her head. I love it and it is next to my computer on the table.
I also got myself nice coffee machine for 3 euro in charity shop.
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Catching up on the Waffle...how was that party t-p? Hope you enjoyed it.
I had an unexpected evening out with some nice people on Saturday night - an old friend invited some of her "girlfriends" round for a meal - I didn't get the message till about 2 hours before! It was lovely - she'd made some gorgeous food, laid the table beautifully and there was a happy mood and entertaining conversation. I knew two of the women well; the others I'd met only once or twice before. The most bizarre anecdotes were from a girl who's now working in a funeral parlour. (Have to admit I did feel rather queasy at one point - luckily we'd finished eating...) I recommended Evelyn Waugh's The Loved One to her. I haven't read it for at least 25 years - must read it again.
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The most bizarre anecdotes were from a girl who's now working in a funeral parlour. Having had an uncle as a funeral director I can remember a few occasions when I had to say I laughed ( and got into trouble I may add as I was only aout 9 )One was when he came to see my mother really pleased as he had been invited to 'The Embalmers' Ball' I also had a vac job for the local NHS ( many years ago I might add!!) and we used to call in at the morgue for an afternoon cup of tea... they kept the milk in a 'fridge' !! A |
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I have a friend who worked in a funeral parlour for a time. She invited me to go for a coffee with her as most of the time she was on her own (well the only one living anyway). I duly turned up one morning and there was no-one in reception but I could hear a whirring humming noise. I called her name and the noise stopped and she emerged with a hairdryer! She said that a deceased man had just been delivered from the morgue and his family had phoned to say they were coming to view him shortly. She said she was frantically trying to thaw him out...her "deep frozen man" before they arrived.  I didn't stay long. |
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