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You see folks, although I feel very guilty about all this now, when we bought this family house 19 years ago - it was ok to have all these fancy light fittings. Now it isn't of course, but I'm not ripping them all out and hanging one longlife bulb from each ceiling until I'm absolutely forced to.
I wouldn't use the 60 deg wash cycle except that any lower temperature doesn't kill bacteria on things like towels, bath mats etc. 30 degs might get things looking clean, but are they?
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« Reply #2821 on: 18:02:33, 29-03-2008 » |
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You see folks, although I feel very guilty about all this now, when we bought this family house 19 years ago - it was ok to have all these fancy light fittings. Now it isn't of course, but I'm not ripping them all out and hanging one longlife bulb from each ceiling until I'm absolutely forced to.
I wouldn't use the 60 deg wash cycle except that any lower temperature doesn't kill bacteria on things like towels, bath mats etc. 30 degs might get things looking clean, but are they?
Milly - I don't think you need to apologise! Even if you choose the most energy efficient options on that carbon footprint calculator, I don't think that you can get to 1 planet sustainability. The scales are rigged because we live in the culture in which we live. I wash my towels at 60˚ too and while I've replaced a lot of my bulbs with energy saving ones, there's still a strip-light in the kitchen that I can't replace (landlord's, see?) and refuse not to use(!) and energy saving bulbs just won't fit in my bed-side lamp. My computer stays on just about all day (work, see?) and in the good old days, my battery would have enabled me to work for long periods of time without being plugged in, but now... |
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« Reply #2822 on: 18:24:27, 29-03-2008 » |
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Milly - I don't think you need to apologise! Thank you. Sob.  |
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« Reply #2823 on: 18:33:11, 29-03-2008 » |
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Seriously though Martle - are you joining in?
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« Reply #2824 on: 19:10:30, 29-03-2008 » |
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I wouldn't use the 60 deg wash cycle except that any lower temperature doesn't kill bacteria on things like towels, bath mats etc. 30 degs might get things looking clean, but are they?
Ho Milly, I would say probably not - most bacteria which effect humans are, not surprisingly, designed to work best at internal human temperature (i.e. 37 C) so 30 C probably wouldn't kill them. Most enzymes (which may be in washing powder) will probably be designed to operate at around the same temperature as well. Having said that, there are thermostable enzymes which can operate at much higher temperatures and thermophilious bacteria which can also survive at higher temperatures (e.g. in hot springs, volcanic fumaroles etc.) |
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« Reply #2825 on: 19:59:52, 29-03-2008 » |
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I wouldn't use the 60 deg wash cycle except that any lower temperature doesn't kill bacteria on things like towels, bath mats etc. 30 degs might get things looking clean, but are they?
I'm unconvinced by attempts to get people to use lower wash temperatures to save energy - I have this suspicion that most people would save far more by turning their heating down a couple of degrees. I'm always surprised at how hot so many houses, shops and offices are, and would people really notice a degree or two? |
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I have this suspicion that most people would save far more by turning their heating down a couple of degrees. I'm always surprised at how hot so many houses, shops and offices are, and would people really notice a degree or two?
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« Reply #2827 on: 20:34:18, 29-03-2008 » |
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and bluetits all year round.
Speaking of which, tonight I'm griddling a chicken breast Ooops, I read that as "For the last few weeks one of my breasts has decided that 5 a.m. is a perfectly acceptable time to wake up and demand breakfast"
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« Reply #2828 on: 20:41:43, 29-03-2008 » |
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Um. Is there a theme emerging here?
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« Reply #2830 on: 22:07:43, 29-03-2008 » |
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Mort, I really have had to ban a little book of garden birds from our class library. I got so fed up with seeing groups of boys huddled round it, sniggering at the Blue Tit! I come onto r3ok to get away from that sort of thing...   |
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Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.
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« Reply #2833 on: 22:15:29, 29-03-2008 » |
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Pendu- what, George?  |
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« Reply #2834 on: 22:17:56, 29-03-2008 » |
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Penduline, Martle. Remiz pendulinus. How could you doubt me? The fine pair illustrated above are Eurasian Penduline Tits but there are others. Here, for example, are a handsome pair of White Crowned Penduline Tits. Lovely perky little things aren't they?  |
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