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Interesting HH , do tell us how it goes. It's a sort of prepared piano then isn't it? A bit of an ethereal sound I guess ..
How do you make the strings resonate? I presume with a a bow?
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« Reply #4756 on: 23:23:39, 20-09-2008 » |
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I'm assuming that it's horsehair (or whatever it is that's used on bows nowadays [embarrassing display of ignorance emoticon]) without the wood of the bow (otherwise it would be impossible to bow individual strings). I've never been close enough to a piano while it's being done to see how it works, so I've just heard the result.
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Wasn't there a video of something like that posted here? Maybe I saw it somewhere else. There were about ten people standing around a lidless piano - some were striking bits of the frame with small mallets, most looked like they were flossing it.
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« Reply #4758 on: 09:51:48, 21-09-2008 » |
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Wasn't there a video of something like that posted here? Maybe I saw it somewhere else. There were about ten people standing around a lidless piano - some were striking bits of the frame with small mallets, most looked like they were flossing it.
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That's the one, Autoharp, thanks! I was struck by how physically well coordinated everyone was - it can't be easy to get ten people crowded around a piano reaching into it to do various things without bumping into each other. I'm not sure I like the actual piece, but the sounds are interesting - quite beautiful.
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« Reply #4763 on: 14:54:45, 21-09-2008 » |
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Haven't watched the videos yet but I believe unwaxed dental floss is among the best things to bow piano strings with.
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I'm assuming that it's horsehair (or whatever it is that's used on bows nowadays [embarrassing display of ignorance emoticon]) I believe it is indeed (still) horsehair that's used on bows. Has to be from male horses, I'm told. You can probably work out why. (Clue: it's a fundamental biological reason. I can't completely exclude the possibility that the luthier I heard this from was pulling my leg.) A pianist friend of mine whom some here have met makes his own mini-bows when such things are called for, from several stretches of fishing line taped together at the ends. |
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Haven't watched the videos yet but I believe unwaxed dental floss is among the best things to bow piano strings with.
Thank you Tinners. I have the feeling that will prove an essential piece of information not easily forgotten. Unfortunately I only have dental bottle-brushes to hand but, since I do not have a piano, any experiment will have to await a visit to my daughter. |
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« Reply #4766 on: 19:53:49, 21-09-2008 » |
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Stephen Scott uses 3 types of "bow" according to a score I have.
Ollie's right: the "soft bow" consists of several strands of rosined nylon fishline fastened at each end with colour-coded tags to identify pitch.
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« Reply #4767 on: 20:32:02, 21-09-2008 » |
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Well, had the band job today. Went not too bad. How much longer do we have to put up with the drum kit boy! I give him all the buiz whatever, and there is only a margin of improvement! Arrrggh! We played Waltz no.2(Shosta) in te first half, OMG!! O well. I will have to talk to the MD about him. He cant even do Hymn to the Fallen properly either! We did'nt sound too bad but that was from joe public. I am not sure wether Martle was there, I was rather busy as usual. Band Manager duties, etc.
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I am not sure wether Martle was there Sorry, BBM, I wasn't. I decided to get out of town today. This place gets crazy as soon as the sun decides to put its feet up. Glad to hear it went ok, at least. |
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« Reply #4769 on: 00:19:26, 22-09-2008 » |
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I've not been about. I've been having some fun with markov chains.
Here's what happens if one feeds some early Shakespeare sonnets into markov chains of (increasing) memory
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2: Frou lovelf wher withy be, beasucce lespencrep prove, you anst execuseld's glendainked bequelf shamemor prine! The cone, Whe thy thou to gles se of he diggacy? Forld, rimakin thrif to seelf-suntren elive, His liest, Thatureauty seeptandecusee So glut ack thy greaut selive? Thousum wheet be So st nothou freby lut sh thouty's thereauty's to bacy?
3: From famine in thee.When nature's glass an all-eat thou of the worty time; So gazed by sum my could fond self all thy be gaudy swer pril of too creat thy spril of sunken naturer, wher; Wher; What thine own deserv'd we deep traffic willage time
4: From fairest thou leave? Thou use, To eat thou art old, or else thou thrifty love, to thou abundance lies, Which, use So thou content, And beauty by the lend, tender heir might never dies with self thy glass and thy lusty days; To eat thy glass and see to stop posterity?
5: From fair who is he so fair child of mine Shall be tombed with thy beauty's legacy? Nature's bequest given thou feel'st it cold. Look in thee to be new made when thou art old, And see thy husbandry?
6: From fairest creatures we desire increase, His tender heir might never die, But as the treasure of thy husbandry? Or who is he so fair whose unear'd womb Disdains the riper should by time that face should by time decease, That the world, or else this glutton be, To eat thereby beauty's use
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