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BobbyZ
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« on: 18:43:55, 24-08-2007 »

Tv may not be a complete desert for classical music once the proms finish. In October BBC4 have Saturday evening concerts, one a Radio 3 birthday concert with the BBCSO and Beholavek and three with the LSO "Gergiev conducts 20th century greats". Slightly more surprising, Channel Five is showing a three hour Tony Palmer documentary on Vaughan Williams in November.

http://www.rvwsociety.com/i-frame/tonypalmer.htm
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« Reply #1 on: 18:49:02, 24-08-2007 »

"Gergiev conducts 20th century greats".

One for Syd, then?  Smiley  (Presumably covering the period 1900-1908 only).
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« Reply #2 on: 18:49:28, 24-08-2007 »

I look forward to it, despite (on occasion) finding Tony Palmer an extremely suspect figure.
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« Reply #3 on: 18:54:34, 24-08-2007 »

"Gergiev conducts 20th century greats".

One for Syd, then?  Smiley  (Presumably covering the period 1900-1908 only).

Various works by Stravinsky, Prokofiev and Debussy. Looking at the listing again, I've got a suspicion these are repeats but better than nothing.
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« Reply #4 on: 18:59:48, 24-08-2007 »

The Gergiev concerts are the ones already transmitted by R3. I wonder whether the impression on TV will be any different to that all to often gained during the radio broadcasts: that he's a man who goes by the moment whether the orchestra are with him or not, and that all too often players and singers were caught completely off their guard by a tempo or transition which was markedly different to anything they'd rehearsed.
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« Reply #5 on: 21:28:47, 24-08-2007 »

I look forward to it, despite (on occasion) finding Tony Palmer an extremely suspect figure.

Ditto. At least with the bottom line: it may be that the occasions we find him suspect are quite different ones. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: 21:46:29, 24-08-2007 »

The Gergiev concerts are the ones already transmitted by R3. I wonder whether the impression on TV will be any different to that all to often gained during the radio broadcasts: that he's a man who goes by the moment whether the orchestra are with him or not, and that all too often players and singers were caught completely off their guard by a tempo or transition which was markedly different to anything they'd rehearsed.

The strong impression I gained (though I have absolutely no idea whether this was true or not) was that, for each of these concerts, one of the works had been rehearsed in some detail with revelatory results, while the others were done more or less on the fly  -  with results that were often dull rather than recklessly exhilarating. (But for all I know it might have been the other way around Cheesy).
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« Reply #7 on: 06:55:54, 25-08-2007 »

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while the others were done more or less on the fly  -  with results that were often dull rather than recklesly exhilarating.

I went to Gergiev's TRISTAN (semi-staged on the platform of the Tchaikovsky Concert Hall, with the Stalls seats taken out and the orchestra placed there) in Moscow in Spring 2006, and the same thing occurred. The event was so outrageously over-priced that we bought seats in the "Choir" (ie at the rear of the stage area),  which meant we had a player's-eye view of Gergiev in action.  Far from an in-depth reading of the piece, I had the impression they were sight-reading.  Gergiev's "wobbling hands" style isn't easy to follow at the best of times, but here it was supplemented by gestures indicating "shut-up", "wrong entry", "now-now-for-chrissake-now" and others that didn't inspire much from either orchestra or singers.  The singers were clearly new to the roles, but got little or nothing from Gergiev to steer them through the piece.  Only Mikhail Kit's magisterial King Mark emerged from the event with any distinction.

It's usually a good idea to wait until he does things the second time around - unless you want to attend what is, in effect, a public rehearsal.  Once it is rehearsed, however, the results can be breathtaking.
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« Reply #8 on: 12:03:32, 25-08-2007 »

I'm assuming that his recording of Le Sacre was rehearsed, though? It must have been, yet it's such a sloppy raucous reading that it makes my blood boil. Not since Solti's 'I can play this louder and faster than anyone' and poor old Mata's slow-motion action replay have I been so disappointed by a performance of the piece on disc: horrible recording, too. And as for his Scheherezade...

Sorry, back to the topic: Palmer's Stravinsky documentary is absolutely wonderful.
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« Reply #9 on: 08:52:23, 29-08-2007 »

Does anyone know what happened to Hugh Cobbe's edition of RVW's letters,which was announced as 'forthcoming' in 2001?
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« Reply #10 on: 21:19:44, 28-11-2007 »

A note has just been posted on the BBC boards highlighting this Independant article.

http://arts.independent.co.uk/music/features/article3202040.ece

Seems the Tony Palmer documentary will finally be aired on Five on New Year's Day.
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« Reply #11 on: 13:06:28, 29-11-2007 »

Well that is a good start to the New Year then . I look forward to it .

Thanks for reminding us Bobbyz

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« Reply #12 on: 19:37:16, 29-11-2007 »


Seems the Tony Palmer documentary will finally be aired on Five on New Year's Day.

Of course, it has to be scheduled so that the start clashes with the final 20 minutes of the Vienna New Year bash doesn't it ! That's no bother to me, I can easliy live without the odd waltz, but it does seem daft. They are showing the full length 3 hrs-ish doc though, so a pleasant afternoon in prospect.

Incidentally, is it the done thing to quote oneself in a post ?
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« Reply #13 on: 20:10:13, 29-11-2007 »

Incidentally, is it the done thing to quote oneself in a post ?

Where it makes as much sense as that, it does. I'll have to do some jigging around to be able to record this off-air, but I guess I'll manage somehow...
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« Reply #14 on: 12:22:17, 06-12-2007 »

If I provide the disc, is there some kind soul who might record the RVW for me?  I don`t have access to 5 Angry

Yours in hope ...
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