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« Reply #15 on: 18:33:01, 25-11-2007 » |
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For those of us who might be interested Matthew, where do we pick up our clipboard?
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« Reply #16 on: 18:43:06, 25-11-2007 » |
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THE 21st-CENTURY COMPOSER'S LOT (?)
No - it's real - we're stuck with it!
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Polly: Basil - Kurt is DRUNK!
Basil: What do you mean?
Polly: He's soused, pickled!
(Basil starts to retype the "gourmet menu")
Sybil: What are you doing Basil?
Basil: I'm retyping the menu!
Sybil: Why?
Basil: Because Kurt is DRUNK, SOUSED, PICKLED!
Sybil: Are you sure - you might be dreaming!!!
(Basil pauses, then bangs his head on the table three times, and looks up...)
Basil: No - it's real - we're stuck with it!
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« Reply #18 on: 19:08:06, 25-11-2007 » |
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But the only problem is this: over there they still actually talk about this as MUSIC. They are, of course, much more "advanced" than us mortals over here. But all I can say is this: "Give me the notes to play, and I'll play them for you as best I can". Where are the NOTES Matthew? Baz  |
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« Reply #19 on: 19:11:03, 25-11-2007 » |
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Events call for certain times and durations to be recorded and sent to the composer; these timings and durations will go to writing a new piece of music in late 2008. Have another read of Matthew's initial post.  |
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« Reply #20 on: 19:20:34, 25-11-2007 » |
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Events call for certain times and durations to be recorded and sent to the composer; these timings and durations will go to writing a new piece of music in late 2008. Have another read of Matthew's initial post. Right, I've got it now  |
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« Reply #21 on: 19:21:41, 25-11-2007 » |
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Events call for certain times and durations to be recorded and sent to the composer; these timings and durations will go to writing a new piece of music in late 2008. Have another read of Matthew's initial post. Thanks martle - I've completely misunderstood all this, and you've clarified it perfectly. So Matthew's "piece" is - after all - just another example of market research then. I wonder, therefore, whether Matthew is talking to the right people? Perhaps MORI or another "City" firm might be a better port of call. That way the rights of those who "take part" (on his behalf) could be fully protected. Baz |
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« Reply #22 on: 19:25:46, 25-11-2007 » |
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I suspect Matthew is interested in a) a form of random data collected through real experience, and b) the impressions of participants of the artistic qualities of those (seemingly mundane) experiences. But of course I could be wrong. It's interesting, if familiar, as he's outlined it so far. I'm hoping he'll be back to tell us more.
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« Reply #23 on: 19:27:46, 25-11-2007 » |
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Or is it the Olympics Martle? Is a stop watch involved?
I never realised when timing the races at school sports days that I was actually composing!! WOW I am a composer too !!!! Hooray !!
I wonder why I spent all that time with pencil, rubber and manuscript paper.. this is so much easier!! - -
Everyone else does the research ( of something or other) then they send it to you and you get the credit by pretending that it is an actual musical composition.... cool!!
Please don't say we have to listen to it though... give me a 'real' composer anytime.
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« Reply #24 on: 19:32:21, 25-11-2007 » |
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I suspect Matthew is interested in a) a form of random data collected through real experience, and b) the impressions of participants of the artistic qualities of those (seemingly mundane) experiences. But of course I could be wrong. It's interesting, if familiar, as he's outlined it so far. I'm hoping he'll be back to tell us more.
Well, martle, I suspect something rather different. With regard to your a), what checks are in place to confirm that the data are i) random, and ii) real? With regard to your b), what criteria exist (if any) to verify the qualitative assessments of random participants concerning "artistic qualities" experienced on a BUS JOURNEY or a TRIP TO THE SUPERMARKET ( inter alia). With respect, therefore, I have to assume that a Music Graduate (from a leading Conservatoire) has more B*LLS than this! Baz |
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« Reply #25 on: 19:36:33, 25-11-2007 » |
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Maybe it's just a deliberate method of creating a piece of music with no rhythm, but claim that it's 'real' and 'natural'. Of course once it's all put together there might actually be a rhythm to it.* Would that excite or disappoint you Matthew?  * especially if some parts are repeated  . |
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« Reply #26 on: 19:38:47, 25-11-2007 » |
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Those are the sorts of things it would be interesting to hear him comment on, Baz; and I guess he may not be too concerned with things like 'checks' and 'criteria' for this part of the project, but again I don't want to put words in his mouth. I'd like to hear what he says himself! Wouldn't you?
(And, he's not yet a graduate it seems - this is his final year.)
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« Reply #27 on: 19:42:52, 25-11-2007 » |
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Those are the sorts of things it would be interesting to hear him comment on, Baz; and I guess he may not be too concerned with things like 'checks' and 'criteria' for this part of the project, but again I don't want to put words in his mouth. I'd like to hear what he says himself! Wouldn't you?
(And, he's not yet a graduate it seems - this is his final year.)
You mention (like him) something called "the project". But I cannot understand whether the project is his or OURS. Who's supposed to be doing all the research for this "project" anyway? We sit on boring buses; shop in tedious supermarkets; walk down messy streets (etc. etc), and then "feed back" our results to Matthew. Do we have any part thereafter in what he DOES with it all? (Please don't say YES!) Baz |
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« Reply #28 on: 20:00:22, 25-11-2007 » |
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YES! (Because - again I make the assumption - he is surely interested in how we might perceive the slight skewering of mundane, everyday actions as at least very modestly 'artistic' events, if only because he has suggested that they might be. This is well-established methodolgy in the field of psychology, for instance. And it has a tangential precedent in music - ) Are You Ready? 4'33''!!!! |
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YES! (Because - again I make the assumption - he is surely interested in how we might perceive the slight skewering of mundane, everyday actions as at least very modestly 'artistic' events, if only because he has suggested that they might be. This is well-established methodolgy in the field of psychology, for instance. And it has a tangential precedent in music - ) Are You Ready? 4'33''!!!!Now you're being the martle we know and love! When you've been "had", it doesn't take too much effort to accept it does it? Baz |
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