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« on: 00:43:39, 07-05-2007 » |
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oh dear a posting failing again.......
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« Reply #1 on: 16:38:31, 08-05-2007 » |
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40 hours and still no replies? It's not a posting failing, it's a failing posting! ...
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« Reply #2 on: 16:53:52, 08-05-2007 » |
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I replied, but then got scared and withdraw it. All of it was done yesterday.
I have a viola here and I am trying to play it. I had three lessons on it. I can not make a commitment for regular lessons, but I love to play it. I love to play open strings. I know that they are from the top A, D, G, C.
I know how to play C major scale. I am glad you can not hear me because it sounds good to me only, not to anybody else.
I am trying to play arpeggio on a viola, but I have difficulty to keep the bow on one string and keep playing two strings. They told me my bridge is not too bad.
The viola was given to me by a mature student who I accompanied for exam. I went to a maker with it and he said it costs about 200 euro. I don't know how to repay back, but I have to learn to play it.
There is a piece (6 lines) capricio that I am trying to learn now.
I will write later about my progress if you don't mind or if more advanced players will not come.
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« Reply #3 on: 17:57:35, 08-05-2007 » |
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Sorry - I originally tried to do a reply to the Violin and Viola thread, but my session timed out just as I was writing it.
Then I had a major dufus moment in posting when I had loggeed back in, which resulted in creating a new thread called violas (this one.) <doh>
So I edited the first post of this thread and put it all back on the V&V Thread
But I forgot to lock this one <double doh>
Oh well, maybe it can be used for viola jokes......
Tommo
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« Reply #4 on: 18:26:39, 08-05-2007 » |
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Can it be used for help for beginners viola players who know how to play other instruments?
I am going to play this arpegio of C no matter what. I am getting better. I am playing viola 15 min every day and I am getting better. Sooner or later I am going to play with good string player and be tutored on in while we rest.
I have some exercises for my hand to do with a pencil and I know spider walk on the bow. I am loosening up and I hope there is something in me yet for learning the second instrument.
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« Reply #5 on: 21:21:00, 08-05-2007 » |
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I went to a maker with it and he said it costs about 200 euro. Really! I would have expected nearer to 2,000 euro. Does the instrument sound okay? It is encouraging to me that you want to play the instrument. I have seen so many instruments languishing and neglected, and it always saddens me. |
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« Reply #6 on: 22:07:41, 08-05-2007 » |
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Really! I would have expected nearer to 2,000 euro You'd be surprised, in fact. As long as you stay out of the world of horrible Chinese "violin kits" ("Skylark" etc) you'd be surprised what you can get for a moderate sum. I decided to pick up the viola again (after a lapse of 20 years) and I found a lovely instrument for 260 pounds from a small private dealer in Kent. It needed a new case which cost me a further 45 pounds, and although there was a ropey bow with it, I invested in a new carbon-fibre bow (on the basis that pernambuco was out of my budget, and my playing doesn't merit one anyhow). It's the most super instrument (C19th English) it rings out beautifully, and my teacher (who is a violinist) is always borrowing it to play on professionally. |
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« Reply #7 on: 22:19:42, 08-05-2007 » |
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I am so happy you picked up viola, Reiner. I also started to play after 20 years of not playing in public at all and not practicing regularly.
I have to buy a case for the instrument because zipper doesn't work and violin can come out of the case if I cary it. Also I have to buy the thing for the neck (don't know what it is called).
I love the instrument. I have a violin student who is advanced (doing her grade 7 Royal Irish Academy (or is it 8 ?)
She played Vivaldy concerto in A and Dvorac nice piece. I consulted her and she pointed out that my bow is not streight (I move it badly) and I hold viola too much forward. But she was impressed with my C major and she liked how I hold the bow).
She told me that I should not lean forward because it makes the bow movement criss cross. She said she had problem like that. I understand that posture is very important. I absolutely love the instrument.
She played well enough. In Dvorak there was a section with octaves that is difficult. Vivaldi she is doing (aiming) at 92 for a crotchet. She is struggling sometimes there. She has another week before exam on Tuesday.
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« Reply #8 on: 22:05:46, 10-05-2007 » |
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I was surprized to know that some people think that viola sounds a little bit like horn.
Does anybody here thinks that viola sounds like horn?
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« Reply #9 on: 00:02:23, 11-05-2007 » |
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Here's a variety of answers......
yes, if you drop them from the same height
It depends on how well you play the horn
It depends on how badly you play the viola.
Tommo
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« Reply #10 on: 06:31:50, 11-05-2007 » |
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Tommo,
But viola does have a hunted sould, and can be misterious. May be this people think that viola soulds like horn with mute?
I am kind of puzzled by what peole said to me, but I am serious, I am not joking.
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« Reply #11 on: 09:38:14, 11-05-2007 » |
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Well in that case, t-p, I'll be a little more serious.
I can sort of appreciate what they are saying when you consider the resonance of the lower strings of the viola. Bottom c's have the same sort of open, boomy sound as a horn, if only quieter.
And upper notes in both instruments have a tension to them.
But that's about as much a similarity as I can really see!
Tommo
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« Reply #12 on: 10:00:27, 11-05-2007 » |
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My friend the composer told me about it (horn and viola). I was kind of puzzled at first because I never associated string instrument with any wind instrument.
But is one thinks about it violin can try to sound a little like a flute (bright) and flute like a violin.
We on the piano have to keep in mind what kind of sound we are looking for.
The piano still sounds like a piano, but something changes.
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« Reply #13 on: 20:29:13, 11-05-2007 » |
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Over the years I've noticed (as students) a number of good pianists who were pretty decent 2nd study violists. Strange (?). John Lenehan was a notable example. And he was able to able to really rise to the occasion when it mattered.
So I reckon you're in good company, tp.
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« Reply #14 on: 20:37:27, 11-05-2007 » |
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Lately I met a few pianists who could play cello. After all Rostropovich was a good accompanist. (I don't know how good, but he could play).
His main instrument was cello. I never heard that Oistrach played piano well.
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