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Ian Pace
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« on: 10:49:54, 14-07-2007 »

This seems a subject that hasn't been discussed on these boards, so I thought it might be interesting to start a thread. What are anyone's thoughts on various periodicals on music both in the UK (Classical Music, Gramophone, BBC Music Magazine, The Musical Times, TEMPO, or some of the academic ones such as Music and Letters, The Musical Quarterly, twentieth-century music) and abroad (US, France, Germany, wherever)? What would anyone's ideal periodical be like?
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« Reply #1 on: 11:50:35, 14-07-2007 »

After many years of buying the odd issue, we now subscribe to BBC music magazine.  It's, on the whole, interesting and the CDs on the front are usually excellent.  This months CD is, in fact a DVD of an old Prom.  Some of the articles are not to my taste (only because of the subject matter, more often than not) and I find some of the reviews a little sniffy (last months issue said, in a review of Chandos' Liszt Symphonic Poems volume 3 said "a little Liszt goes a long way" - a comment which I took exception to and sent off a complaint letter as that had absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the recording or the performance so is irrelevent).
I also get Internatonal Piano which is consistently good - many of the articles are interesting and the reviews are better and obviously more focused on piano music than the BBC MM.  No CD with that though!
We used to get Grammphone very rarely (usually for the CD on the front) but haven't bothered for a few years.
Once a year, we also receive the Liszt Society Journal* but ony because we are both members of the society (and, as you know, I write their CD reviews for them).  Lynn and I catalogued their library of CDs and books earlier in the year - didn't have enough time to do teh scores as well.

* = always worth a read and it's excellent
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« Reply #2 on: 18:46:36, 14-07-2007 »

I have bought the BBC MM from our local Tesco for years, 7 or 8 issues a year, I'm sure it must be worth me getting a subscription with the discount they are offering. There's a free Brahms CD set going at this moment to new subscribers too. The articles and CD reviews are written at my level (no musical education but a 'serious' listener for 30 years, classical and jazz) I get to know about most of the top artistes, and the free CD is usually interesting, complete works of course. ClassicFM mag is awful by comparison.

I only realised yesterday that the free disc with the BBC MM proms issue THIS month is actually a DVD of Beethoven's 4th PC and Neilsen's 4th Symph. from preveious proms.

opilec wrote,

a distinguished musicologist once told me that the average readership for an article in an academic music journal is ... two-and-a-half: and one of those is the author!!!  Cheesy

Well, why laugh, tell your musicologist he's not funny. The BBC MM circulation is currently over 45,000 ! Why are they not all posting on here?  Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: 19:00:04, 14-07-2007 »

I am one of the many who used to be an avid Gramophone anorak but I gave it up about 15 years ago now, for the usually expressed reasons. I have a look at it on the bookstalls every so often but haven't been tempted back.

These days I read the odd article which looks enticing or gets recommended here (or both) in The Musical Times and Tempo, maybe a couple a month, but, ahem, have never actually bought a copy of either.

My ideal? I suppose it would be something in the hinterland between those two on the one hand and something a bit more 'popular' and 'newsy' on the other, with a bit of the old 'Listener' thrown in for good measure. 'Scholarly' but not 'academic' if you get my drift. Oh, and rather more pictures of attractive people drooping languidly and suggestively over their cellos than you tend to get in the average copy of Tempo Cheesy.
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« Reply #4 on: 20:02:12, 14-07-2007 »

For CD reviews, I find International Record Review to be on the highest level. But don't buy any of them on a regular basis. Read through most of the academic periodicals regularly, but they are all a bit mixed. And look at the Neue Zeitschrift für Musik more these days - again mixed, but overall on a higher level to whatever it's English-speaking equivalent might be (Classical Music? BBC Music Mag?). For new music, can't think of anything better than Musiktexte.
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« Reply #5 on: 20:09:17, 14-07-2007 »

Neue Zeitschrift für Musik
I'd be more interested in that journal if it could be a little less blatant about being a Schott/Wergo house magazine. Also they review far too few recordings and give far too much space to "in-depth" interviews with composers you've never heard of and whom you know you'll never hear of again once they've been round the Eurofestival circuit.

Bring back Contact is what I say.
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« Reply #6 on: 20:12:08, 14-07-2007 »

But don't buy any of them on a regular basis. Read through most of the academic periodicals regularly, but they are all a bit mixed. And look at the Neue Zeitschrift für Musik more these days.

Are they all instructions?

I like International Record Review too but I rather like the little pictures of the CD covers that most other review magazines have.
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« Reply #7 on: 20:23:23, 14-07-2007 »

Neue Zeitschrift für Musik
I'd be more interested in that journal if it could be a little less blatant about being a Schott/Wergo house magazine. Also they review far too few recordings and give far too much space to "in-depth" interviews with composers you've never heard of and whom you know you'll never hear of again once they've been round the Eurofestival circuit.

Bring back Contact is what I say.
Well, in recent issues I've read a fascinating interview with Hans-Joachim Hespos, and a whole issue on 'Schön oder Wahr' which had a variety of very intelligent perspectives on the issue, in particular a very fine article by Dieter Schnebel on the subject. I couldn't imagine anything equivalent in a British magazine. Sure it has a Schott/Wergo bias, but that's little different from the Boosey's bias in Tempo at least for a long time. Contact was OK (but certainly had plenty of interviews/articles with the types of composers you mention in the context of NZfM), but not on the level of Musiktexte - would love there to be something like that over here. Similarly if I compare Contemporary Music Review with Musik-Konzepte.
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« Reply #8 on: 20:27:15, 14-07-2007 »

My ideal? I suppose it would be something in the hinterland between those two on the one hand and something a bit more 'popular' and 'newsy' on the other, with a bit of the old 'Listener' thrown in for good measure. 'Scholarly' but not 'academic' if you get my drift. Oh, and rather more pictures of attractive people drooping languidly and suggestively over their cellos than you tend to get in the average copy of Tempo Cheesy.
Might that be something akin to a musical equivalent of the London Review of Books or New York Review of Books? That would be most welcome, I reckon.
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« Reply #9 on: 21:49:34, 14-07-2007 »

I couldn't begin to add up the music I was first introduced to in the pages of Contact, or the insightful reviews whose contents have stayed with me ever since (and where else would you have found such extensive coverage of new music in Albania during the Hoxha era? Wink ). I agree that the Hespos interview in NZfM was rather interesting, but I believe this is the first time he or his music has received such attention in that journal, and for a composer of his stature approaching 70 that strikes me as a bit mean, given that they always have space for the flavour of the month. But without a copy of either to hand (or of the often crushingly ponderous MusikTexte) I'm not in a position to go any further with that particular discussion.

Some of you will know that for a few years I was involved with editing an independent journal called EONTA (together with Harry Gilonis, Richard Leigh and as chief editor Steven Holt), which had the distinct advantage of not being entirely about music (Hanns Eisler: "People who only know about music don't know about that either"), but instead published a whole range of writing on other cultural disciplines and their relation to political and philosophical ideas, plus original poetry etc. etc. - that would be my personal model for a journal on contemporary arts and ideas.

As for something for a more general readership, I'd point to the Gramophone of the 1970s, from which, apart from anything else, I learned a great deal about music (ie. not just about recordings of it). Why isn't there anything like that any more - with the addition of coverage of live music as well? If Ollie were here he'd mention Diapason at this point, so I'll do it for him. If something like that can stay afloat in France why not in the UK?
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« Reply #10 on: 23:06:00, 14-07-2007 »

Well, I've been pouring through lots of old issues of NZfM recently, ones from the 1980s and 1990s, in the context of researching various things, and there are countless articles of great interest (too many to photocopy!). Even when just looking at a year or two's issues (for example, a whole series of very intelligent articles on the postmodernism debate, by Hermann Danuser, Ulrich Dibelius, Mauricio Kagel and Konrad Boehmer - all within the space of a year). As far as Hespos is concerned, he hasn't been served that well by periodicals (or books) anywhere. Contact was OK but over-rated, I reckon - I have all the back issues from about half-way through its circulation, and there are only a handful of articles I'd go back to. EONTA was extremely good (though only had six issues ever), but that was in large measure because it provided translations of articles on music and the other arts that had previously appeared in German. That would account for over half of it. CD reviews aren't really the primary reason for reading a journal these days (reckon I can find better informed opinions on r.m.c.r. or the like, actually - or at least ones that will give me a real idea of what the CDs are like).

Re academic journals - I do find that claim about readership hard to imagine. Most university libraries get all of those, and I'm sure there are a few people in each who read them, or at least skim through them. Of course many such articles are simply very specialised and as such wouldn't be so easy to read by those who aren't very well-versed in that particular area. But the same could be said for articles on very specialised scientific subjects, and I doubt one could seriously argue they are less important as a result. Nineteenth-Century Music really isn't great at the moment, but there's plenty of extremely well-researched and original stuff in other publications.
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« Reply #11 on: 23:07:18, 14-07-2007 »

I'm just going to say "Diapason" and then I have to catch a bus...

You have to be able to speak French though.
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« Reply #12 on: 23:11:48, 14-07-2007 »

I'm just going to say "Diapason" and then I have to catch a bus...

You have to be able to speak French though.
I know next to nothing on French musicological journals - any you know and would recommend?
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« Reply #13 on: 23:24:26, 14-07-2007 »

he wasn't joking! He was talking about academic music journals (Musical Quarterly, Music and Letters, Nineteenth-Century Music, etc.),

Now can I laugh?  Cheesy

aaaarrrggghh! Yes, please. Please laugh your head off and then do this to mine:

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« Reply #14 on: 00:15:23, 15-07-2007 »

Ian, a distinguished musicologist once told me that the average readership for an article in an academic music journal is ... two-and-a-half: and one of those is the author!!!  Cheesy

And the other the referee?

I seriously doubt this for music journals, given that often they are quite readable, even if one does not verify every statement.  Except for the bad ones, of course.
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