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Reiner Torheit
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« on: 21:05:59, 11-10-2007 »

Tell us about your favourite pieces in 5/4.   Or in 5/8, or 5/16, if you like.

Let's save those in 7, 11 and others for another time?
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« Reply #1 on: 21:54:14, 11-10-2007 »

Well let's get Dave Brubeck Quartet Take Five out of the way, a fantastic piece of music, the beat and Paul Desmond's saxophone just make me weak at the knees. On vinyl I have the album that followed that Time Further Out and there's two titles in 5/4 Far More Blue and Far More Drums, haven't played it for years, thanks for the reminder I might compare and contrast and report back Smiley

I think I have or have heard works by Rachmaninov and Ravel in 5/4, they are not favourites but I'm going to look for them.

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« Reply #2 on: 15:29:15, 12-10-2007 »

Reiner,

My little database said I have an early Philips stereo LP of Ravel's Quartet in F a work I've heard on R3 or CFM evening concert, I honestly can't remember when I played that LP, just reading the sleeve makes no mention of 5/4 but it must be the same work, and yes I have a BBCMM CD of Rachmaninov's Isle of the Dead which probably got one play, so neither are favourites but I'll play that Philips LP if I don't go out this evening.

Maybe not music that you expected but just humming Take Five conjures up Jethro Tull's Living In the Past, a definite favourite bit of prog rock when I was doing O levels, and the theme for TV's Mission Impossible is also coming to mind, all 'catchy' little numbers aren't they!  Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: 15:50:50, 12-10-2007 »

Oooooooooh, you might want to go back to "Isle Of The Dead" again...  it's a super piece IMO.  Rach has been COTW this week, and it was played early on in the week...  an example of how Rachmaninov's career might have developed if he hadn't been forced to flee Russia and spend a lot of time touting himself around as a solo pianist (and conductor) in other repertoire.
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« Reply #4 on: 16:10:08, 12-10-2007 »

Reiner,

I've had to miss Cotw this week just catching snippets of Rach's vocal works during a couple of lunch time drive-arounds. It's so annoying that if you miss Cotw one week you can't plan to catch the repeat next week, like we used to  Sad but I have that CD so something to pop in the car  Smiley


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« Reply #5 on: 21:31:39, 12-10-2007 »

We had better mention Mars from the Planets. Always creates a slightly uncomfortable march-like pulse, that one, but so very effective.

Then there's the Tchaikovsky waltz in 5/4 - someone remind me which symphony it's from.

And finally, I'm quite partial to the 5/16 bars in The Rite of Spring, but then they are juxtaposed with other diverse time sigs. so I suppose you get a different effect.

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« Reply #6 on: 21:56:00, 12-10-2007 »


Then there's the Tchaikovsky waltz in 5/4 - someone remind me which symphony it's from.


2nd movement of the Pathétique - no 6. That's the one I thought of as soon as I saw this thread!



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« Reply #7 on: 22:56:48, 12-10-2007 »

I've just listened to Ravel's String Quartet, got some time on my own, it's familiar so have heard it somewhere recently, very enjoyable, listening out for the 5/4 again and well to me the music is very complex but think I heard it in the 2nd and 4th mvmts  Smiley

A very atmospheric sound at times, sitting here with dim lights found myself imagining running through a dark windy orchard, no doubt thinking of those cherry trees that Sydney Grew posted, lack of sleep, I think I'm hallucinating

The other side of the LP (Philips SAL 3643) is Debussy's String Quartet Op 10, for the weekend.

While rummaging in the LPs I remembered I'd loaned my Jethro Tull compilation album to someone years ago, never saw it again, so Living In The Past will be sometime in the future  Smiley

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« Reply #8 on: 23:09:25, 12-10-2007 »

Liszt's Harmonies Poetiques et Religieuses - the single piece, not the set, is in all sorts of odd time signatures!
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« Reply #9 on: 23:49:31, 12-10-2007 »

The slow movement of Chopin's Piano Sonata No 1 (the rarely heard C minor, Op 4) is in 5/4 - one of the earliest examples?
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« Reply #10 on: 00:11:20, 13-10-2007 »

The slow movement of Chopin's Piano Sonata No 1 (the rarely heard C minor, Op 4) is in 5/4 - one of the earliest examples?

That's nice, roslynmuse! I don't know it at all. Just heard a tantalising sample here:
http://www.amazon.com/Chopin-Piano-Sonatas-Fryderyk/dp/B00001YVCP
(Link under CD pic then 3rd sample)
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« Reply #11 on: 00:28:50, 13-10-2007 »

One of my favourite pieces - Morton Feldman's Palais de Mari - is in 5/8. Well, the first bar is!

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« Reply #12 on: 01:07:35, 13-10-2007 »

I wonder if listeners really appreciate the time-sig change into 3/4 when each bar of it is, errr, empty, Andy?  Would it sound different if those bars were 6/8 instead of 3/4,  I wonder?   Wink
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« Reply #13 on: 19:22:09, 15-10-2007 »

The scherzo from Borodin's (unfinished) 3rd symphony, in 5/8 except for the middle section.
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« Reply #14 on: 20:10:44, 15-10-2007 »

I wonder if listeners really appreciate the time-sig change into 3/4 when each bar of it is, errr, empty, Andy?  Would it sound different if those bars were 6/8 instead of 3/4,  I wonder?   Wink

Of course it would Reiner! I particularly like those 2 catchy 5/8 bars rest at the bottom!   Grin
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