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Quite unusually for me I've listened to most of the programme already - not when it was on but I've just been playing my recording of it.
Was quite enjoyable but then I was texting most of the time, so I wasn't really concentrating. Not sure I'd want to give it my full attention.
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richard barrett
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« Reply #2 on: 11:38:08, 25-03-2007 » |
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HH, John Oswald is really quite well-known outside the "straight" composition scene, both for his work in "plunderphonics" and as an improvising saxophonist. I have to say I find the ideas behind his work often thought-provoking while finding the music itself less than fascinating. I wish I'd heard this programme though (don't think I have time to LA in the coming week), there's a lot of Chris Cutler's work I find interesting. And I think Ilan Volkov's decision to bypass the world of mainstream composition almost completely in his new music programming for the BBC SSO is an important move - I think it's more likely to produce a renewal of the idea of orchestral music than if he were content to round up the usual suspects for commissioning.
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« Reply #3 on: 12:19:53, 25-03-2007 » |
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RB:i'm also impressed with Volkov's programming- -he took charge of a London Sinfonietta concert a year or so back and it included a number of composers which might otherwise have been overlooked (a wacky piece by Luke Stoneham which the critics hated,but was for me the best thing in the programme)
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« Reply #4 on: 12:55:24, 25-03-2007 » |
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I wish I'd heard this programme though (don't think I have time to LA in the coming week), there's a lot of Chris Cutler's work I find interesting. Feel free to contact me for a rather lo-fi recording, but I'm fairly sure that a number of our friends here will have more hi-fi recordings... |
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« Reply #5 on: 14:16:40, 25-03-2007 » |
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HH, John Oswald is really quite well-known outside the "straight" composition scene, both for his work in "plunderphonics" and as an improvising saxophonist.
Oh yes. Remind me of how much of a parochial back-water I live in, why don't you?   I really just feel so completely out of the 'straight' composition scene (I didn't think that we were allowed to use that term outside of the whole 'queering the pitch' discussion room...), let alone out of any wider or bigger picture. I'm LAing this afternoon while tackling some Sibelius inputting. |
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richard barrett
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« Reply #6 on: 14:35:01, 25-03-2007 » |
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Sorry, HH, I wasn't meaning it like that, I was just trying to say that a whole BBC SSO programme of John Oswald isn't necessarily as much of a bolt from the blue as it may have seemed. I'd be interested to know how many people turned up to the concert.
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« Reply #7 on: 14:44:37, 25-03-2007 » |
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Richard, you have me very confused. I feel sure I heard Robert Worby say that Oswald was neither a saxophonist nor an improvisor, last night. It didn't ring quite true to me, but I am pretty sure that is what he said. I will check it out, or you can do so yourself, soon enough. ;-)
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« Reply #8 on: 14:51:34, 25-03-2007 » |
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Here he is (on the left) with a saxophone in his mouth, doing SOMETHING together with Marshall Allen (of Sun Ra Arkestra fame) which I think is safe to assume is improvisational...  |
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« Reply #9 on: 14:59:02, 25-03-2007 » |
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Sorry, HH, I wasn't meaning it like that, I was just trying to say that a whole BBC SSO programme of John Oswald isn't necessarily as much of a bolt from the blue as it may have seemed. I'd be interested to know how many people turned up to the concert.
Just cos you didn't mean it doesn't make it not so... I've got to get out of this place before I start writing like Cough Cough Cough Ahem Remainder of posting eaten. |
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« Reply #10 on: 14:59:47, 25-03-2007 » |
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Nah, Richard. That's Michael Parsons on the left, though he usually sticks to his curved sopranino. ;-)
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« Reply #11 on: 15:01:10, 25-03-2007 » |
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Nah, Richard. That's Michael Parsons on the left, though he usually sticks to his curved sopranino. ;-)
I thought it was John Malkovich? |
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« Reply #12 on: 15:17:18, 25-03-2007 » |
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Just checked. It was Sandall, not Worby, who made the authoritative comment that Oswald is neither an instrumentalist, not an improvisor. It's about 39 minutes in.
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« Reply #13 on: 15:52:08, 25-03-2007 » |
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Richard, you have me very confused. I feel sure I heard Robert Worby say that Oswald was neither a saxophonist nor an improvisor, last night. It didn't ring quite true to me, but I am pretty sure that is what he said. I will check it out, or you can do so yourself, soon enough. ;-)
Judging by this: http://www.musiccentre.ca/apps/index.cfm?fuseaction=composer.FA_dsp_biography&authpeopleid=10734&by=O someone (i.e. RS) hasn't quite done all the research that they should have. Could be wrong. Slap me down if necessary. |
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« Reply #14 on: 16:29:15, 25-03-2007 » |
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The photographic evidence certainly supports your thesis, HH. Maybe Oswald's activities are less well-known than I thought they were. <whistle>
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