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richard barrett
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« Reply #60 on: 18:53:06, 11-09-2008 »

May be it is rubbish, Mr Dr Richard Barrett.
I am not an expert on the subject.

I don't think you need to be an expert to realise that nobody wants to stay poor.
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« Reply #61 on: 18:59:02, 11-09-2008 »

May be it is rubbish, Mr Dr Richard Barrett.
I am not an expert on the subject.

I don't think you need to be an expert to realise that nobody wants to stay poor.

err... St Francis of Assisi

I'll get me coat
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richard barrett
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« Reply #62 on: 19:00:32, 11-09-2008 »

I'll get me coat

You do that!  Cheesy
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« Reply #63 on: 19:01:49, 11-09-2008 »

Thank you Mr Dr Richard Barret.
I understand that. It is true.

I am on a shaky ground here because I don't really know.
All I know is that economists are moving away from both systems. They are trying to find solution for a number of things, but there is no solution yet.

Sorry that I seems to anger you.
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richard barrett
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« Reply #64 on: 19:05:26, 11-09-2008 »

Sorry that I seems to anger you.

You don't, you just say some ridiculous things sometimes.
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« Reply #65 on: 19:13:31, 11-09-2008 »

If everyone did one thing, just one thing every day (not necessarily by giving money either) to help just one person outside their own family, the world would be a much better place IMHO.  Just looking after your own family isn't enough.  You could donate old clothes to the Sally Army to give to the homeless - cook a dinner for a lonely old person.  People say they have no time to do that but they have to cook their own so what's another plateful.  I bet there's a lonely old person near to everyone. In this area they have a scheme whereby people cook an extra Christmas dinner and take it to a needy person.  I know a few people who do that.  

These seem like little things, but they mean a lot and they help tremendously.  Even just spending an hour sitting talking with someone can be just as beneficial as throwing money around.  It's not all about money.  Those who are fortunate enough to be able to give financially should do so and it doesn't have to be a lot.  Think of the widow's mite. 

This all sounds very sentimental I know but I sincerely believe in what I'm saying. 
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« Reply #66 on: 19:17:05, 11-09-2008 »

I know many people that are doing as much as they can to help. I am trying to do as much as I can. I try not to charge much for my services. I give free lessons sometimes to those that can not pay.

Mr. Richard Barret. You are not the only one that thinks so.
I am also told that I can be very annoying.
It is just that I don't see where I get off track with my thinking.

I am going to the rehearsal now. Will that piano behave itself today?
Sorry again. I have a streak of absolute stupidity in me. I was told that many times.
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« Reply #67 on: 19:17:45, 11-09-2008 »

May be it is rubbish, Mr Dr Richard Barrett.
I am not an expert on the subject.

I don't think you need to be an expert to realise that nobody wants to stay poor.

err... St Francis of Assisi

I'll get me coat

No, no, HtoHe, don't get your coat. Give it away.
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« Reply #68 on: 19:48:46, 11-09-2008 »

"...I've chose a special mission of my own.   I'm after a man whom I want to destroy.  He died many centuries ago, but until the last trace of him is wiped out of men's minds, we will not have a decent world to live in."

"What man?"

"Robin Hood."
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« Reply #69 on: 19:53:24, 11-09-2008 »

As for who gets the Strad and other questions about what would happen "under socialism", isn't that a bit like asking a cavedweller what living in a city would be like?

But that is basically my point. We are talking about a system so alien to anything we know that nobody can know how to make it work. Until we have a plan for a society like that, instead of a vague statement that "property ownership is bad", we can't begin to work towards it.

So "ultimate" Socialism (if I may call it that) remains a pipe dream, however laudable in theory. And attempts to create a "half-way" Socialism haven't had such a great track record.

I do consider myself a Socialist at heart... but I'm also too much of a pragmatist to let my heart win on this one.

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richard barrett
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« Reply #70 on: 19:58:48, 11-09-2008 »

As for who gets the Strad and other questions about what would happen "under socialism", isn't that a bit like asking a cavedweller what living in a city would be like?

But that is basically my point. We are talking about a system so alien to anything we know that nobody can know how to make it work. Until we have a plan for a society like that, instead of a vague statement that "property ownership is bad", we can't begin to work towards it.

However, people did make the transition from living in caves to living in cities and I'm sure nobody had anything that could be called a "plan" for that.

And probably it was a development that was tried unsuccessfully a few times, giving some the opportunity to say it's "human nature" to live in caves! (Which indeed it had been.)
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« Reply #71 on: 20:03:51, 11-09-2008 »

May be it is rubbish, Mr Dr Richard Barrett.
I am not an expert on the subject.

I don't think you need to be an expert to realise that nobody wants to stay poor.

I don't believe t-p was saying that. She actually wrote "they make it their way of life and don't want to improve themselves and work" (my emphasis). I think everybody wishes they had more money, but I know (personally) that there are also people who would prefer not to work as long as sufficient money was handed to them regardless.

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richard barrett
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« Reply #72 on: 20:08:06, 11-09-2008 »

I know (personally) that there are also people who would prefer not to work as long as sufficient money was handed to them regardless.



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« Reply #73 on: 20:11:36, 11-09-2008 »

 Shocked

Thank you, now I'll have nightmares tonight   Angry

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richard barrett
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« Reply #74 on: 20:16:04, 11-09-2008 »

Thank you, now I'll have nightmares tonight   Angry

You asked for it!  Grin Cool Grin

(not really)
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