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Does everyone think that OJS keeps doing these dreadful crimes? Murder - now this? Or is he being set up like Mike Tyson was?
Discuss.
By WENN world entertainment news - 2 hours 43 mins agoOJ Simpson has been found guilty of all 12 counts in his armed robbery and kidnapping trial 13 years to the day he was acquitted of the double murder of his wife Nicole and her friend Ronald Goldman.
A jury in Nevada reached the verdict after late-night deliberation on Friday, 12 days after the trial began.
Simpson, 61, and his co-defendant Clarence Stewart now face life imprisonment.
The charges stemmed from a heist Simpson and Stewart took part in at the Palace Station Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas last year.
Prosecutors alleged Simpson led a group of men in an armed raid on a suite rented by sports memorabilia dealers Bruce Fromong and Al Beardsley for what they thought was a transaction meeting.
Guns were allegedly brandished and the two hotel guests were threatened as Simpson and his associates filled two pillowcases with items the former American football star and actor claimed had been stolen from him.
Four of Simpson's former co-defendants testified for the prosecution.
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« Reply #1 on: 13:16:08, 04-10-2008 » |
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[Old jokes revisited]
- KNOCK KNOCK
- WHO'S THERE?
- O.J.
- O.J. WHO?
- YOU'RE ON THE JURY
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« Reply #2 on: 13:36:18, 04-10-2008 » |
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OJ guilty or not ? Once or twice ? I have a gut feeling but unless you have sat through all the evidence it can only be an uninformed opinion.
But there is a distinct reluctance on the part of US juries to convict celebrity defendants, certainly of the most serious crimes. Michael Jackson, Robert Blake, Phil Spector.
Similar traits could be seen in the justice system here too, although being the UK the crimes tend to be of a more mundane nature. Footballers and soap stars never seem to be found guilty of motoring offences. But we did get Archer and Aitken I suppose.
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #3 on: 20:28:16, 04-10-2008 » |
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I can just never believe that anyone has done anything bad. I always assume that there has been some sort of mistake - whether they're famous or not. I still can't believe Harold Shipman.......  |
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #4 on: 21:04:09, 04-10-2008 » |
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I would certainly be useless on a jury, because I can't imagine finding anyone guilty unless there was absolutely cast-iron evidence.
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #5 on: 21:07:00, 04-10-2008 » |
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I would certainly be useless on a jury, because I can't imagine finding anyone guilty unless there was absolutely cast-iron evidence.
I'm exactly the same. Even with cast-iron evidence I would assume that they were mentally ill and needed help. I can't seem to get my head round just "evil".  |
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« Reply #6 on: 21:10:26, 04-10-2008 » |
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I would certainly be useless on a jury, because I can't imagine finding anyone guilty unless there was absolutely cast-iron evidence.
On the contrary, that's exactly what you're supposed to do. The prosecution in criminal cases is supposed to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt, and if a juror believes that they have not done that, it's that juror's duty to vote to acquit. |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #7 on: 21:12:51, 04-10-2008 » |
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I've always managed to get out of jury duty. It's the only time that migraines have proved useful. I'd hate to do it.
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« Reply #8 on: 21:39:57, 04-10-2008 » |
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It's the "reasonable" in "beyond reasonable doubt" that would stop me.Think of those women who've been convicted of killing their children because someone thought it "beyond reasonable doubt", those innocent people who've been sent to prison or even hanged - I couldn't risk it.
I've never been asked to be on a jury, but my son was a jury foreman when he was under 30!
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« Reply #9 on: 22:03:22, 04-10-2008 » |
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It's the "reasonable" in "beyond reasonable doubt" that would stop me.Think of those women who've been convicted of killing their children because someone thought it "beyond reasonable doubt", those innocent people who've been sent to prison or even hanged - I couldn't risk it.
I think I know what you mean - which is why if I were to be a juror (and I've never actually been called for jury service) I would want to consider every statement of the prosecution case so carefully. I think many cases of miscarriage of justice arise because the prosecution case has been taken at face value, particularly in cases where the enormity of the crime (or, more cynically, the celebrity status of the victim) have led jurors to let down their guard. Of course there are those cases where the evidence is simply unreliable - the cases in which women have been convicted of killing their children involved, if I remember, expert evidence from a witness who has since been discredited, and in those cases it must be dreadful for jurors who took that tainted evidence in good faith. |
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« Reply #10 on: 02:01:39, 05-10-2008 » |
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O.J. O.J. O.J. Who cares .. Anyway. |
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« Reply #11 on: 08:56:58, 05-10-2008 » |
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O.J. O.J. O.J. Who cares .. Anyway. His family, if the sobbing on the news clip was anything to go by. Awful. |
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« Reply #12 on: 13:58:59, 05-10-2008 » |
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Even with cast-iron evidence I would assume that they were mentally ill and needed help. I can't seem to get my head round just "evil". Unless it's a pedophile; then you'd chop them to bits, IIRC.  |
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #13 on: 17:49:47, 05-10-2008 » |
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Even with cast-iron evidence I would assume that they were mentally ill and needed help. I can't seem to get my head round just "evil". Unless it's a pedophile; then you'd chop them to bits, IIRC. Yup!  ( but that would be taking the law into my own hands, not jury duty!) |
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« Reply #14 on: 11:37:30, 07-10-2008 » |
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If I remember the news of his arrest correctly, it was last autumn when the incident happened. And the trial was last week. Can witnesses reliably testify to what happened a year ago? I certainly have no idea of specific dates and times of events in my life last October  "Please tell the court what did you do on the evening of the 7th of October 2007." "I have no idea, m'lud." |
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