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Question: Which is your favourite Sullivan opera?
The Sorcerer
HMS Pinafore
The Pirates of Penzance
Patience
Iolanthe
Princess Ida
The Mikado
Ruddigore
The Yeomen of the Guard
The Gondoliers
Utopia Ltd
The Grand Duke
Ivanhoe
Another not listed

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« Reply #225 on: 19:27:00, 23-04-2008 »

A belated thanks for the recommendation of the Brent-Walker VHS of COX & BOX, which finally arrived in my mailbox yesterday.  I was amazed to see it had been directed by David Alden (!),  looking extremely young in the interview with him.   I found the gambling number, which I'd never heard before.  I am not particularly sure I like all the street characters, policemen, postmen etc, but I suppose the tv company who produced it wanted to make it "spectacular" Sad

The TRIAL BY JURY which partners it on the cassette is truly the most appalling production imaginable - I got as far as the Judge's song and turned off in despair Sad   It just shows that even an excellent cast can be inspired to really bugger things up if they're directed to do so Wink
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« Reply #226 on: 16:16:14, 17-05-2008 »

I've just been sorting through my collection of G&S books - and started to read them of course! I have a lovely old pale blue cloth-bound book called The Pinafore Picture Book by WS Gilbert, dated 1908, with colour plates and line drawings by Alice B Woodward plus some excerpts from the musical score accompanying the narrative. It really is delightful and quite amusing. The words of Captain Corcoran's song are interesting.

In the version used nowadays:
Bad language or abuse,
I never, never use,
Whatever the emergency;
Though "bother it" I may
Occasionally say,
I never use a big, big D —

Chorus.
What, never?
Captain.
No, never!
Chorus.
What, never?
Captain.
Hardly ever!
Chorus.
Hardly ever swears a big, big D —

The "big, big D " is Damn! is it not?

In this book it's:

Bad language or abuse
I never, never use,
Whatever the emergency;
"How tiresome!" I may
Occasionally say,
But I never use a big, big B!


And Gilbert adds in a footnote:
He meant "Bother!" - a vulgar expression that only the strongest provocation can excuse.


Was this tongue in cheek do you think?

Edit: Just thought, if this book was intended for children that would explain why a  big, big D! was not allowed!

There may be more examples of word changes but I must get on with my sorting and packing so into the box this much-treasured book must now go!

Edit: PS. I've found I have 2 identical copies of D'Oyly Carte Centenary 1875-1975, in good condition full of history, anecdotes, drawings and photos. If anyone here would like my spare copy, please PM me - I'd be happy to send it to you.
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« Reply #227 on: 21:17:07, 17-05-2008 »

I've always imagined Captain Corcoran did use a big "B", and not "D"?  I think Gilbert's footnote is intentionally ironical.
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