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« Reply #60 on: 14:11:13, 28-08-2007 » |
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Just so nobody misses the chance:
MICHAEL TO PLAY EDNA IN "HAIRSPRAY" AT THE SHAFTESBURY THEATRE
Michael will be starring at Edna Turnblad in the forthcoming musical “Hairspray”. The show opens in London’s West End at the Shaftesbury Theatre on Tuesday 30 October 2007 with previews from Thursday 11 October 2007. Tickets can be obtained from:
Telephone Bookings: 0207 379 5399
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« Reply #61 on: 16:22:23, 28-08-2007 » |
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Didn't they both sing in Bernstein's own recording of WSS?
They did - but prior to that there had been umpteen Broadway and West End casts, plus the movie, and no opera singers had appeared in any of them. I think to a certain extent LB wanted to push his piece into the operatic world retrospectively? |
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Didn't they both sing in Bernstein's own recording of WSS?
They did - but prior to that there had been umpteen Broadway and West End casts, plus the movie, and no opera singers had appeared in any of them. I think to a certain extent LB wanted to push his piece into the operatic world retrospectively? I do wonder to what extent the Carreras/Te Kanawa recording - and documentary film - were motivated by commercial rather than artistic considerations. In any case, both the film and the discs demonstrate that Carreras was seriously at sea with the idiom; as the film shows, to LB's considerable consternation. |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #63 on: 17:52:07, 28-08-2007 » |
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Does anyone agree that Tatiana Troyanos as Anita was great in that recording though?
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« Reply #64 on: 18:22:36, 28-08-2007 » |
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Does anyone agree that Tatiana Troyanos as Anita was great in that recording though?
I do. Which just goes to show that opera singers don't have to be hopeless in that kind of music. |
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« Reply #65 on: 18:47:57, 28-08-2007 » |
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I am amazed at the knowledge of the work of Michael Ball displayed by many correspondents to this board who have not, or will not, even listen to Michael Ball before making derisory comments about his performance. The comment was made last evening around the fact that Mozart , along with many other classical composers, was thought of as unacceptable to the established music buffs of the time but he appears to have had some minor success. Whilst accepting that not everyone can appreciate every form of music I applaud those who understand that their particular taste may not be that of others. Henry Wood was always willing to be creative in his choice of music and I feel that the Proms will be better for the Michael Ball experience which was, after all, the first concert to be sold out!!!
I speak as one who is going to enjoy Michael at Peterborough this coming weekend and also when he appears in Hairspray I will be there.
I also speak as one who also appreciates grand opera and ballet , when I can afford it, and am a regular listener to the classical radio offerings.
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« Reply #66 on: 18:52:49, 28-08-2007 » |
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Still no response from anyone about the other Michael Ball...
Best,
Alistair
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« Reply #67 on: 18:56:55, 28-08-2007 » |
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As we've said before on this thread - well I have anyway - I would go and watch a musical myself and have a wide taste in music, which also includes heavy rock and jazz. But....what I do not go to the Proms for is to see someone with a microphone shoved down the back of his throat, belting out songs from the shows (also from the back of his throat). I can see that any time in the West End.
I don't think there is a single person on this message board who won't have heard him perform either on disc or live - or even last night. Most are not commenting on whether or not he is talented, most are just discussing whether or not the occasion/venue is suitable.
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« Reply #68 on: 19:03:16, 28-08-2007 » |
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fact that Mozart , along with many other classical composers, was thought of as unacceptable to the established music buffs of the time That's odd, because Mozart was universally popular with other composers in Vienna at the time. Perhaps you have been hoodwinked by the popular myth that Salieri disliked Mozart's music? The actual "fact" is that Mozart invited Salieri to his performances and was delighted to see him cheering in the audience. I wonder if you have confused Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart with some other Mozart? Mozart was a composer. Michael Ball is a singer. |
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« Reply #69 on: 20:09:51, 28-08-2007 » |
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Ok. Well I'm obviously outvoted anyway. As I pointed out, the place was heaving and they were dancing, clapping and he got a standing ovation. As I said, the people have spoken. This is what they want and this is what they shall always have in the future. Fair enough. For me, the wrong music in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm in the minority.
Well, I'm with you on this. I listened with as open a mind as I could manage, but it was definitely a Radio 2 programme. He sang at different volumes, but it was all too much the same I thought. I don't know what the rule is nowadays, but when I sang in choirs many years ago, we were told that the word 'you' should be 'yoo' to make it more pleasant to listen to, but Michael Ball's version of a rather strangled 'yee-yew' I thought was harsh on the ears. I think it is fair to say that by the end of the show, I had come down firmly on the side of anti not pro! Obviously, he is one of the best in the world of musical theatre, but ..... I'll read on through the thread now. |
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« Reply #70 on: 20:14:09, 28-08-2007 » |
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when I sang in choirs many years ago, we were told that the word 'you' should be 'yoo' to make it more pleasant to listen to Just out of interest, why should that be a consideration when singing but not when speaking? Obviously, he is one of the best in the world of musical theatre Why is that obvious - could you maybe say what it is that makes him one of the best in the world of musical theatre? I didn't listen, and haven't heard Michael Ball sing for many years, but I'm puzzled by the apparent need to admit that he must be good at musical theatre at the same time as criticising his qualities in the context of last night's concert. |
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« Reply #71 on: 20:14:46, 28-08-2007 » |
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Oh, go on Alistair, I'll bite....
the other Michael Ball?
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« Reply #72 on: 20:15:37, 28-08-2007 » |
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Alas, SusanDoris, "yee-yew" is creeping even into King's College Choir these days! Awful, I agree, in speech or singing.
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« Reply #73 on: 20:52:33, 28-08-2007 » |
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Oh, go on Alistair, I'll bite....
the other Michael Ball?
Yes - the British composer of that name... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #74 on: 21:17:13, 28-08-2007 » |
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It seems that we are being sidetracked to the world of choral singing quite a jump from Michael Ball and whether or not he should appear at the Proms. Surely this only proves that a catholic taste in music transcends all predudice and we can all benefit from the " other point of view"
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