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harmonyharmony
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« on: 11:23:12, 06-10-2008 »

Hi

I just have a thought about personal information and pictures, concerning which I first posted here.
I don't want to remove posts which explicitly identify me, however it would be nice if only registered members can see them.
Is there any way of creating a room (not unlike the Argument room) which would only be available to registered members?
I would cautiously suggest that meet-up suggestions would also be more at home in such a protected (google-free?) space.
It doesn't stop students or colleagues registering for the forum but it will provide an additional level of protection.
If this isn't possible, I would like it if all posts explicitly identifying me were edited to not identify me if that's ok.
Thanks

hh
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« Reply #1 on: 11:41:47, 06-10-2008 »

IMO you're overreacting a bit there.
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« Reply #2 on: 12:18:35, 06-10-2008 »

No, I don't think hh is.

That's for him to say.  I hope I haven't identified anyone on a Meetup board without their approval, and I apologise if I have.
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« Reply #3 on: 12:25:47, 06-10-2008 »

No, I don't think hh is.

That's for him to say. 

Yes it is of course, but I think it isn't necessary to batten down the hatches like that because of some unspecific comment made by one of his students. I was trying to be reassuring. I have students and colleagues too, some of whom probably read some of my posts, and I use my real name on this board, and my photograph has been posted after several meetups and I don't feel in any way compromised by all that. Maybe I'm being naive.
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« Reply #4 on: 12:46:07, 06-10-2008 »

I think that possibly I've been less discrete about what I talk about than other members.
I hope that I am overreacting. I've just had a trawl through GOR posts and Challenges and Upsets, as well as the HE thread and I can't find anything that I believe compromises me or would upset my colleagues. So that's nice.
I think I'd just like to be cautious on this front that's all.

[hmmm] After a ponder, I'm not sure where I stand on this anymore. I suppose that's why I was asking for people's thoughts. Maybe hang fire on removing things for a while [/hmmm]
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« Reply #5 on: 12:52:03, 06-10-2008 »

I'd just like to mention that the Mods identified a recent new member as a possible student of hh's and drew his attention to the fact, but that as a registered participant on the forum, this member would have exactly the same access as any other, so that altering the permission to view the meet-up threads to 'members only' would have made no difference were it the same person. Nevertheless, if hh would like to contact the Moderation Team regarding any posts he feels should be altered, we'll happily comply.
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« Reply #6 on: 13:08:51, 06-10-2008 »

I don't want to remove posts which explicitly identify me, however it would be nice if only registered members can see them.
Is there any way of creating a room (not unlike the Argument room) which would only be available to registered members?
I would cautiously suggest that meet-up suggestions would also be more at home in such a protected (google-free?) space.
It doesn't stop students or colleagues registering for the forum but it will provide an additional level of protection.
If this isn't possible, I would like it if all posts explicitly identifying me were edited to not identify me if that's ok.
I don't think hh is overreacting, but I think he may have interpreted a fairly non-specific comment in a rather specific way (a bit like Gene Hackman piecing together the wrong conversation in the film of the same name ...).

I'm also a bit puzzled about 'posts explicitly identifying me', because I don't recall any post ever having explicitly identified hh (some referring to premieres of his pieces could be worked out by anyone who'd been at the concert, but that couldn't be changed by editing them, only by removing them completely).

Maybe some of your grumps about your job situation and your colleagues could be seen as delicate if read by someone close enough to your work situation to have a more specific idea of who you were annoyed with, hh, but that would take quite a lot of reading through the 'social' threads. My own take has always been that while this is indeed a public-access forum, few other than the regular posters are likely to read through long threads which don't have a fairly specific and identifiable topic (composer-related, issue-related, etc.).
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« Reply #7 on: 13:16:26, 06-10-2008 »

The student that alerted me is a Good Egg and is only looking out for my best interests.
The posts in question around the concert are so lovely that I don't want to see them disappear, hence my query if there was a space outside of the range of Google's ranging eye where we could put them.
It's a bit like suddenly finding out that someone in the flat opposite has been able to see you dancing to the Bee Gees. You ask yourself what else they could have seen.
I'm very grateful that the mods have been keeping an eye on IP addresses. I think that it's probably ok to leave things as they are, but I'm open to suggestions as to how things could be changed to become a little more opaque.
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« Reply #8 on: 13:18:38, 06-10-2008 »

I don't know people's identities (unless they are using their real name, of course).
I am afraid that I am easy to identify because of my location.
I used to be very afraid, then I was not. Recently with the spam scare I was afraid again.
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« Reply #9 on: 13:31:00, 06-10-2008 »

It's a bit like suddenly finding out that someone in the flat opposite has been able to see you dancing to the Bee Gees.

hh, nothing you've posted is even remotely in the vicinity of anything quite so heinous, embarrassing, irresponsible or gross as that, I assure you. I too think you're overreacting a bit. If you were a monster or a duplicitous cad, there'd be cause for concern.  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: 13:32:41, 06-10-2008 »

Recently with the spam scare I was afraid again.

Don't worry about spammers t-p, they're not interested in individuals, just accumulating numbers, and most of what they do is done automatically by computer programs, there are no people involved.

I seem to remember having my identity revealed on this forum Cheesy

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« Reply #11 on: 13:35:17, 06-10-2008 »

I used to be very afriad, then I was not. Recently ... I was afraid again.

Most enlightening.

hh, would I be wrong in remembering that you've posted at least one link to your blog? Any road: I think everyone here would agree with me that not only do your posts not compromise you, but on the contrary that they bespeak an attractive, intelligent and sincere personality whose owner would be a credit to any educational institution.
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« Reply #12 on: 13:53:44, 06-10-2008 »

I would tend to agree that you're over-reacting. The amount of board-reading required to piece together your identity is far greater than the amount required to understand that you are all the things Richard accuses you of above.

Kiss

EDIT (to avoid creepy stalker overtones): I think that the only reason I happen to have worked out your identity was because of a mention some time back of some rather fine CD liner notes you wrote. Surely a connection that does you nothing but credit.
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« Reply #13 on: 13:58:56, 06-10-2008 »

I think everyone here would agree with me that not only do your posts not compromise you, but on the contrary that they bespeak an attractive, intelligent and sincere personality whose owner would be a credit to any educational institution.
Indeed, but just as - as barbara_pym_derks's signature reminds us - "People hate anything well-made. It gives them a bad conscience", I expect we all have colleagues and acquaintances who, however justified we are in complaining about their failings comparative to our own, we would rather didn't actually get to see our complaints. I think there's not too much need for hh or anyone else to worry, but one of the things that I think is valuable about this forum is the way people who prefer to maintain a level of anonymity are able to do so (martle, George and autoharp are rather good at this IMHO without appearing guarded to the point of unfriendliness) whereas others of us are in varying degrees willing to court controversy either under our own names or (as in my case) with an e-mail address visible to anyone who can be bothered to look.

I would tend to agree that you're over-reacting. The amount of board-reading required to piece together your identity is far greater than the amount required to understand that you are all the things Richard accuses you of above.
I would certainly second this.
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« Reply #14 on: 14:00:43, 06-10-2008 »


I am afraid that I am easy to identify because of my location.


Not that easy t-p. I come from Manchester, but I bet you couldn't find me!!!

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