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« Reply #90 on: 19:10:13, 10-10-2008 » |
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Let us all reposition our fingers.
Oh how gorgeous! Baby boxers? That is a beautiful picture.
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« Reply #91 on: 19:24:04, 10-10-2008 » |
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Let us be grown up about this. Alhough I said I would not post.
t-p got a warning, she has not replied to the Mods
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #92 on: 12:07:12, 11-10-2008 » |
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re-election polls (unless you mean DonB's passing comment, which no one else seems to have responded to).
To clarify - I was certainly not calling for re-election of mods as a result of any current issue. What I would consider vital to any voluntary body is term limits. This is not criticism of current mods, all of whom at present I respect and generally support. It is healthy for any voluntary organisation, as I have seen in a lifetime of involvement with church organisations. Two years would be just as good as one, and would avoid any suggestion it was a result of the present affair, whatever it may be. "Forget and forgive" is an inappropriate phrase as at present we do not have anything in particular to forgive, as we as a board do not know what is going on. What I would agree that we need to discipline ourselves about, and if this is what Milly meant I agree with her, is not make matter worse by going and on about it. And, Milly, I am sorry to say that you going on to tinners was precisely the sort of dragging things out unnecessarily to which I thought that you were objecting. After his initial annoyance with Pim, he explained himself with characteristic honesty and consideration. I was glad to hear from A again. The other thing I have noticed with some concern, is that since two members were suspended, for good reasons as far as I can tell, members have been more ready to say what they think about others, and it then just escalates. I am not advocating social hypocrisy - but there are times when saying you are hurt is in itself hurtful.
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Robert Dahm
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« Reply #93 on: 12:20:35, 11-10-2008 » |
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t-p got a warning, she has not replied to the Mods
Are you sure about that?Case closed.
What case? Was t-p on trial? If so, for what?EDITed to avoid belligerently adding fuel to a rather incomprehensible fire. Sorry. Don B's last post, however (and indeed everything he's said in this thread), seem some of the most eminently reasonable words that have appeared on the matter.
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #94 on: 12:34:58, 11-10-2008 » |
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"Forget and forgive" is an inappropriate phrase as at present we do not have anything in particular to forgive, as we as a board do not know what is going on. What I would agree that we need to discipline ourselves about, and if this is what Milly meant I agree with her, is not make matter worse by going and on about it. And, Milly, I am sorry to say that you going on to tinners was precisely the sort of dragging things out unnecessarily to which I thought that you were objecting. Well I've given up now in despair anyway. As I said, everyone has to want peace for it to be a viable proposition. I have to hold my hand up and say that none of it was any of my business anyway and I shouldn't have interfered at all. I was just so upset that the board had deteriorated to such an extent and that the atmosphere was so awful. I was also very angry because of the way I perceive that it's happened. I think it's a very great shame. I was only trying to make the peace, probably very clumsily, but my intentions were good. As they say "The way to hell is paved with good intentions....." I shan't say any more on the subject now.
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« Reply #95 on: 13:23:28, 11-10-2008 » |
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I'm not in full possession of the whys and wherefores, but I think in away we could be victims of our own success. What I mean by that is that virtual encounters have become actual in all but physical presence. The relationships and issues in some cases are pressing and taken to their fullest extent in law, t-p's experience could be seen as one of discrimination. Quite rightly it's been pointed out that we can appeal to a spirit of healing and taking things on the lam,but I think some sort of negotiation platform,moderated,might be a useful thing to have in readiness. This could even be added to the board rules if practicable? Some of the relationships here are professional as well as affable, and there are equivalent 'trade' channels to insure them. My present day job is an open plan small team which socialises quitea bit, andwhile itsvirtuesare many it does,like this board sometimes,heighten emotionswhen challenging experiences or views are shared,similarly. nb if I understand her correctly, Anty just felt like taking a break, which might be another simple solution pre-escalation.
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« Reply #96 on: 14:10:59, 11-10-2008 » |
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Two years would be just as good as one I agree by the way. Although there might of course be circumstances whch would require it to be brought forward.
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« Reply #97 on: 14:35:56, 11-10-2008 » |
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Let us all reposition our fingers.
I for one, am quite ready to reposition my finger I shall sit here and wash myself until everything settles down nicely.
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Click me -> About meor me -> my handmade storeNo, I'm not a complete idiot. I'm only a halfwit. In fact I'm actually a catfish.
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« Reply #98 on: 16:28:37, 11-10-2008 » |
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. The relationships and issues in some cases are pressing and taken to their fullest extent in law, t-p's experience could be seen as one of discrimination.
erm .. what on earth do you mean here please? Why is the fact she has been told off discrimination? ( serious question ) It seems a lot of you don't know anything about what actually happened certainly with t-p but you are ready to say how it should have been dealt with.... After for time being rather sick of posting something fairly interesting and then finding that t-p had put something quite distracting and frivolous after it thus meaning my messages were never replied to but t-p's were... I decided I would prove to myself that this was what was happening. It happened. I got a private mod for stalking etc.which was made public - much to my annoyance, t-p (after I reported her stalking of me) got the threat of a public warning which was kept private. That is what happened as far as I am concerned. I know the board are completely on t-p's side for some reason or other and it will all become very clear when she returns, as everyone will fall over themselves to be sweet... but she is not the angel portrayed by so many. Could someone please tell me who the 2 people are who have been suspended? I have no idea. Thank you . A
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Antheil
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« Reply #99 on: 16:34:47, 11-10-2008 » |
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A. it was Ian Pace and Swan Knight that were suspended
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #100 on: 16:50:30, 11-10-2008 » |
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I know the board are completely on t-p's side for some reason
A I really don't think that is necessarily the case at all. I don't think tp thinks it is, or she would be posting on the boards, though I hope with more restraint than in the past. One member mentioned the word discrimination. Nobody else has mentioned it. The issue is still being dealt with, and I think it is better to lay off comment on that particular issue for now. I am not suggesting we all go along pretending there aren't tensions and we have not been upset if we have. But discussion of tp in terms of sides is very unhelpful at present, I would suggest.
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #101 on: 16:54:43, 11-10-2008 » |
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Here is what Ted Ryder said yesterday, which may have been overlooked as it was in very small print. I would recommend tp to take notice of it.
Like Robert I may be missing-out on some "game" being played here, a game for which I do not have the rules, but assuming all is as it seems may I make a couple of points. t-p seems to be a very pleasant person but someone who never stops to take breath. When she takes care she can write perfectly decent English and post interesting and sometimes amusing messages but she often seems compelled to post in haste on ever thread going, often without a very clear understanding of what is being discussed, sometimes without checking she is posting in the right place and too frequently posting pointless messages in such a rush that her English is more or less beyond understanding. This can be very annoying but not much more than that and I would suggest our friend t-p takes a little more time in reading the posts of others and a little more thought to her own messages.
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Antheil
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« Reply #102 on: 17:07:41, 11-10-2008 » |
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Totally agree with you and Ted
Less is More
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« Reply #103 on: 17:57:27, 11-10-2008 » |
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More or less Anty
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« Reply #104 on: 19:12:45, 11-10-2008 » |
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Here is what Ted Ryder said yesterday, which may have been overlooked as it was in very small print. I would recommend tp to take notice of it.
Like Robert I may be missing-out on some "game" being played here, a game for which I do not have the rules, but assuming all is as it seems may I make a couple of points. t-p seems to be a very pleasant person but someone who never stops to take breath. When she takes care she can write perfectly decent English and post interesting and sometimes amusing messages but she often seems compelled to post in haste on ever thread going, often without a very clear understanding of what is being discussed, sometimes without checking she is posting in the right place and too frequently posting pointless messages in such a rush that her English is more or less beyond understanding. This can be very annoying but not much more than that and I would suggest our friend t-p takes a little more time in reading the posts of others and a little more thought to her own messages. Totally agree with you and Ted
Less is More I don't agree. One can also say: Less is a Bore. I don't find t-p's behaviour on this message board "annoying" in any sense. If you don't like a certain person, discussion or posting, why not ignore it? Oh, dear: I'm probably mistaking now. That's why I have decided to ignore this message board for a while. I wish to thank member Peter Grimes for the excellent John Vickers clip. Many thanks. Goodbye.
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