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Author Topic: Meeting Life's Challenges & Upsets  (Read 26265 times)
Milly Jones
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« Reply #1065 on: 06:53:40, 29-08-2008 »

A, we all sympathise and would like to help in any way. You've seen the support we give each other on here. 

All the best,

Milly x
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« Reply #1066 on: 07:00:36, 29-08-2008 »

A, I am so sorry you feel this way. I am not a stranger to feelings like that and in fact have them often.
I don't know why you think you have little going for you? You have us here and you have someone very special close to you. And you have music and time for your reading. I think you read 100 times more than I do.
Please feel better soon,
 Kiss  Smiley
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« Reply #1067 on: 07:48:57, 29-08-2008 »

I had noticed for the last few days that you were feeling low, A. I recognise the symptoms because I have had them so often myself. Please don't think that no-one cares - many of us here have had wonderful support from people on this forum, and we are willing to give it as well.


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Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap
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« Reply #1068 on: 08:19:19, 29-08-2008 »

Sorry to hear that you are feeling so low, A. It can feel almost impossible to dig oneself out of the depths st such times, also very difficult to find anything positive. Have your orchestra got any concerts planned? Something that might help you shift focus, even if temporarily? Could you perhaps visit your daughter and have some 'away time' if you feel that's what you need?

I hope the clouds lift soon.
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« Reply #1069 on: 16:08:47, 29-08-2008 »

I had thought you seemed a bit snarky over the past couple of days.  We all have our own ways of reacting to difficult situations.  I hope things do clear up for you A, and that you're back in fighting form soon. 
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« Reply #1070 on: 16:24:00, 29-08-2008 »

I don't expect any replies, no-one ever replies klindly to me.

Which surely rather begs us not to, A?

I'm sure there are very few (if any) on this board who rejoice in others' unhappiness, though it must be said that it's easier to offer support to those who appear to be making some sort of stand against their challenges rather than (apparently) having given up the fight already and embraced negativity. In the end, any change in this sort of situation has to be initiated by the subject, and common-sense (and experience) suggest to me that if one gives the impression of wanting to be isolated from others, then others will happily comply.

Although I appreciate it may often be difficult to give details, most who post in this thread tell us not just how they feel, but why: unless we understand what motivates your unhappiness, there's little any of us can offer by way of experience-based advice.

Your list has one positive, and that's it; not for the first time on these pages, I'd strongly suggest that a piece of paper divided in two would be a useful start. Place the negatives down one side, and put positives on the other. Keep going until you have at least half as many positives as negatives, then tear the paper in half, chuck the negatives away, and concentrate on those positives.

You always have to start helping yourself before others can help you. Not the easiest thing to face when you're in the dumps, but half-baked platitudes really won't begin to get you up again.


You see Ron, it is quite difficult to talk about the details of personal problems as you well know my husband of 5 months (to the day) posts here. The problems are not with him but they are to do with my domestic situation and I know he would not want me to mention them on a public board like this. I have tried to help myself in my position but just because I don't give the details out in public doesn't mean I am not trying to address them. 

I have one positive to put on my list and not enough paper for the negatives.

I am sorry but I do have to say your message is quite depressing and does not actually show much concern... saying I have to give details before you can say anything is not actually much help. But don't worry .. when you say 'have given up already' it is about 4 months.. and I have tried to sort them out...I don't give up that easy !

A
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« Reply #1071 on: 16:24:44, 29-08-2008 »



Thanks very much to those who have replied either on here or by pm. I didn't think anyone cared !

Thanks.  A
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« Reply #1072 on: 16:25:27, 29-08-2008 »

Sorry to hear that you are feeling so low, A. It can feel almost impossible to dig oneself out of the depths st such times, also very difficult to find anything positive. Have your orchestra got any concerts planned? Something that might help you shift focus, even if temporarily? Could you perhaps visit your daughter and have some 'away time' if you feel that's what you need?

I hope the clouds lift soon.

Thanks Mort, Orchestra rehearsals start soon.... hooray!!!!

A
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« Reply #1073 on: 16:26:44, 29-08-2008 »

Are you going to the York Bowen concert at the Wigmore in September, A? I'm not sure I can make it (a Thursday, I recall) but I might try.
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« Reply #1074 on: 16:37:45, 29-08-2008 »



Thanks IGI, I had forgotten about it,  I am in your debt. I will have to check dates ( when we can finally surf on the internet again and get on email... the only site I can get is this one, weird???)
I will try to go obviously.!!
A
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« Reply #1075 on: 16:40:34, 29-08-2008 »

It's Thursday 25th September, A. Tcikets between £10-22

Endymion
Michael Dussek (piano)
Krysia Osostowicz (violin)
Jane Salmon (cello)

York Bowen Rhapsody Trio in A minor for violin, cello & piano Op. 80
Bowen Rhapsody in B minor for solo piano Op. 10 (world première)
Stravinsky Duo Concertante
Rachmaninov Trio élégiaque No. 1 in G minor Op. posth.
Bowen Suite for violin and piano Op. 28

http://www.wigmore-hall.org.uk/whats-on/productions/endymion-22209
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« Reply #1076 on: 16:58:15, 29-08-2008 »

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« Reply #1077 on: 17:41:22, 29-08-2008 »

It's Thursday 25th September, A. Tcikets between £10-22

Endymion
Michael Dussek (piano)
Krysia Osostowicz (violin)
Jane Salmon (cello)

York Bowen Rhapsody Trio in A minor for violin, cello & piano Op. 80
Bowen Rhapsody in B minor for solo piano Op. 10 (world première)
Stravinsky Duo Concertante
Rachmaninov Trio élégiaque No. 1 in G minor Op. posth.
Bowen Suite for violin and piano Op. 28

http://www.wigmore-hall.org.uk/whats-on/productions/endymion-22209


Thanks again IGI, I shall get myself in order and sort that out if I can  Kiss

A
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« Reply #1078 on: 18:44:34, 29-08-2008 »

I am not sure if this is helpful but I find often the answer is to walk away, (grab a train to Abercwmsoch or wherever for a few days) gather your thoughts, walk on the beach, leave the muddied waters to settle, leave those at home to fend for themselves, the brain will suddenly clear and the answer becomes obvious.  Come back to the situation and approach it afresh from a different angle and perhaps those you have left at home will also have a different opinion as well.


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« Reply #1079 on: 19:32:30, 29-08-2008 »


I have one positive to put on my list and not enough paper for the negatives.

I am sorry but I do have to say your message is quite depressing and does not actually show much concern... saying I have to give details before you can say anything is not actually much help. But don't worry .. when you say 'have given up already' it is about 4 months.. and I have tried to sort them out...I don't give up that easy !

A

On the other hand, you appeared quite convinced that nobody would reply, A, but they did, so that's another negative turned into a positive straight away. Others are reminding you of pleasures to come, so that's more. You and yours have got their health, so that's more still. Anty's suggestion of time away by yourself - not in Manchester, but by the sea for a couple of days, makes sense, too; you've already told us you have a car, so that or rail from South London to the Sussex coast is easy.

You have hinted before on the board that you were finding things difficult (which I'm sure everyone here can readily appreciate) but it really isn't a kiss-it-better, wave a magic wand and it will all go away sort of situation, is it? It's a dig deep, "I'll blasted show'em what I'm made of, I can make this work" affair, and I think you know that, and realise that it's a tall order. You've that "I'm stuck at the bottom of this rock-face and I still can't see the way up" feeling, though I think Anty may have nailed it: a little distance, and standing further back, can help you see other ways of making that upward journey.

And as for you thinking I'm not showing much concern, well, I'd disagree with that, strongly: the last couple of months here have taught me that there are times when being a shoulder to cry on is just not enough, and that although it may seem callous at first, helping folk to find the strength to accept what they have to face is more helpful than letting them ignore it, or believe it's unconquerable.
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