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« Reply #31 on: 15:35:04, 31-05-2007 » |
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So may we add our voice to that of Mr. TimR-J? We are sorry to have to say it, but the works of this man Xenakis are offensive to the cultivated musical taste.
Why does every enjoyable forum have to have one arrogant p**** who confuses their own personal convictions with the taste of all cultivated persons? Is this supposed to be amusing? Of course we may excuse him as a person - he had to endure occupation by Germans. But a year or so after that he fought against our own brave British troops and it is not so easy to forgive him that even though he managed to do himself a mischief thereby.
This comment I can't take as anything else than a very badly misjudged joke. And that is me being at my most charitable. What century do you hail from, Grew? |
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« Reply #32 on: 21:26:06, 31-05-2007 » |
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Thoughts?
Many. And none of them complimentary. But in the interest of harmony, if the term does not seem out of place when talking of Xenakis, I'll refrain from posting them and just say that I am delighted that those who seem to enjoy his output are able to do so. |
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« Reply #33 on: 23:29:49, 31-05-2007 » |
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Sydney Grew loves it when we all snap at the bait.
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« Reply #34 on: 23:50:28, 31-05-2007 » |
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Sydney Grew loves it when we all snap at the bait.
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Sydney Grew loves it when we all snap at the bait.
What am I, a fish? What is he, a teenager? |
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« Reply #36 on: 14:40:19, 07-06-2007 » |
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« Reply #37 on: 14:46:04, 07-06-2007 » |
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Messiaen and Varèse - excellent second-raters each of them on our septenary scale Please name a few first-raters, Mr Grew. I don't want to look stupid! Many thanks in advance. Best wishes, Pim |
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Please name a few first-raters, Mr Grew. I don't want to look stupid! It isn't you who will look stupid when the list is rolled out, Pim (yawn). I believe somone called Litolff, or however he now spells it, is at or near the top of Grew's Pantheon. |
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« Reply #39 on: 14:59:38, 07-06-2007 » |
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somone called Litolff, or however he now spells it I know the name of this man and I know he's a composer, but I really don't know a piece by him.  I always like it to learn something new. Recently, I heard a new piece by Georges Aperghis (a new name to me). It was beautiful. |
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« Reply #40 on: 16:55:05, 07-06-2007 » |
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Given that Sydney possesses a number of Xenakis recordings, presumably he must have been interested once ?
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« Reply #41 on: 16:59:42, 07-06-2007 » |
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Given that Sydney possesses a number of Xenakis recordings, presumably he must have been interested once ?
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« Reply #42 on: 17:08:49, 07-06-2007 » |
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Listening to Aki Takahashi playing X's piano music (Mode80).
Nice picture of him smiling on the back-cover: how often do you see that?
Only just put it on so I don't have really any thoughts yet but I was wondering if anyone else was familiar with this disc?
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Ooh! Is that the end of Evryali tacked onto the beginning of Dikhthas?    |
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This is sort of a digression, but speaking of great performances of IX's piano music - has anybody else had the good fortune to hear Marc Ponthus play the complete Xenakis solo piano rep? This must have been five or six years ago, but I vividly remember Ponthus beginning the program with a Beethoven piano sonata (Appassionata?), then launching immediately after the last cadence into Evryali. He then played the rest of the program with no pauses except to wipe his forehead occasionally. It was really amazing.
I don't know how extensively he toured with this program (I saw him in Baltimore in probably 2002 or 2003), but if anybody else happened to catch it, I'd love to know whether it struck them the same way.
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