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Arnold Schoenberg: Verklarte Nacht; Piano Quintet. The Nash Ensemble.
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« Reply #2851 on: 22:00:39, 13-05-2008 » |
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Now I've been and gone and ordered that Jolivet without even thinking about it. This must stop really.
I don't think you will be disappointed that it didn't quite stop in time. Or did you mean Ron's box? That I can't vouch for but am guessing is also a hoon hoot. |
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« Reply #2852 on: 22:38:04, 13-05-2008 » |
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 Spurred on by (a) the hype, (b) a 40% off at Borders coupon, and (c) a long-held realization that I own recordings of neither the Schoenberg nor the Sibelius, I picked this up this afternoon. I know neither piece well, so perhaps others can comment, but I think it's quite good indeed, although personally I'd like to hear Boulez in the Schoenberg... (no, not playing the violin) |
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« Reply #2853 on: 23:10:11, 13-05-2008 » |
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 The usual problem with attempting to listen through a Beethoven cycle: I can never get past 1 and 2! They're such extraordinary pieces that I have to agree with my school teacher who said that, if Ludwig had died before writing the Eroica, he'd still be remembered as a great symphonist. In terms of orchestral forces, these performances aren't quite as revisionist as some others, but oh my goodness, the playing: incredibly sensitive, often unexpectedly soft-grained, not at all the relentlessly in-yer-face stuff that has wider currency. And for the most part, it really seems to work: I don't think I've ever heard the opening of second movement of no. 2 sound quite so beautifully seductive and fragile. |
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« Reply #2854 on: 23:33:51, 13-05-2008 » |
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I have not yet listened to 1 or 2, I started with Consecration of the House, then the 7th, 8th, 4th, 5th and 3rd. I will have to go back to the 7th and 4th soon, as they made the least immediately positive impressions on me. The 5th is a cracker. Fancy reading some real garbage about the set? Try this for size.  |
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« Reply #2855 on: 23:53:09, 13-05-2008 » |
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Fancy reading some real garbage about the set? Try this for size. "a lack of sheer emotional clout in, for instance, the first movement of the Eroica"? Not as I just heard it, Bryn! On the other hand, it's not one of those period performances that secretly seems to be wishing itself 50 or 100 years later. The feet are in the 18th century, but not (as Clements seems to think) "anchored" [sic]. These performances remind me a bit of Zinman's Missa solemnis, which relates the work very recognisably to the world of Haydn and Mozart: with the result that it seems more (not less) startlingly original than if it were making a nod or two in the direction of Klemperer, Furtwängler et al. And at the same time the playing -- unlike some of the previous old-instrument cycles I can think of -- sounds not just incredibly accomplished and stylish but also very beautiful and sophisticated in a non-self-regarding way. (Er, does that make any sense?  ) But then, they seem to have taken their time over these pieces: they were touring them round Europe in 1999, I believe. And the depth of experience shows. (As it does, in a rather different but complementary way, in the recent SCO/Mackerras set.) But "too careful"? I don't think so!  |
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« Reply #2856 on: 09:03:25, 14-05-2008 » |
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Opi, I have now added 1 & 2 to my list of listened to symphonies from the set. I concur entirely with your assessment. Just 6 and 9 to come. After I have listened to number 9 I will go back to the earlier Sony CD and see if I have moderated my negative views on it at all.
I like the way the booklet notes are done, too, with the Berlioz quotes leading into Reynaud's comments.
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« Reply #2857 on: 11:27:10, 14-05-2008 » |
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Received yesterday + spun late last night - Reger Latin Requiem op 145a . Last heard it c.1974. Not surprisingly my memory of it turned out to be imperfect - except I still think it's a remarkable piece. It's an unfinished slice of what would have been a massive Requiem. Will compare it with the (much shorter) Requiem op 144 tonight hopefully.
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« Reply #2858 on: 15:42:51, 14-05-2008 » |
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Goodluck with that autosharp!!
Now spinning: Bach Goldberg Variations(Adnras Schiff)
Now its, Liszt recital by Jorge Bolet
Beethoven: Hammerklavier Sonata(Emil Gilels)
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« Reply #2859 on: 19:28:56, 14-05-2008 » |
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Alkan - Piano works (again) with Ronald Smith playing the Symphony from Op.39
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Best regards,
Jonathan
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"as the housefly of destiny collides with the windscreen of fate..."
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« Reply #2860 on: 20:23:53, 14-05-2008 » |
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(Re: Rautavaara) Thanks Bobbyz. I'll try and get into Coventry tomorrow, see what their library has on the shelves.
The only Rautavaara on their shelves was the Naxos CD of Piano Concertos 3 & 4 (and Isle of Bliss which I know).  Not quite sure what to make of these concertos, though I was writing at the time so repeat listening required And I expect Coventry library have more Rautavaara in their CD list if I look next time |
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« Reply #2861 on: 22:29:56, 14-05-2008 » |
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The usual problem with attempting to listen through a Beethoven cycle: I can never get past 1 and 2! They're such extraordinary pieces that I have to agree with my school teacher who said that, if Ludwig had died before writing the Eroica, he'd still be remembered as a great symphonist. In terms of orchestral forces, these performances aren't quite as revisionist as some others, but oh my goodness, the playing: incredibly sensitive, often unexpectedly soft-grained, not at all the relentlessly in-yer-face stuff that has wider currency. And for the most part, it really seems to work: I don't think I've ever heard the opening of second movement of no. 2 sound quite so beautifully seductive and fragile. I'm listening to No.1 now, having played No.3 last night, and agree about the playing. Delightful woodwinds - I see that Eric Hoeprich (clarinet) and Hans-Peter Westermann (oboe) are playing in No.1 - very persuasive performances. |
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Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
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« Reply #2862 on: 22:34:03, 14-05-2008 » |
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Earlier on (than the Alkan) Liszt symphonic Poems on Naxos - Die Ideale etc, really excellent recording!
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« Reply #2863 on: 14:49:56, 15-05-2008 » |
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The Firebird(Stravinsky); c/w Scherzo a la Russe; Scherzo Fantastique & Fireworks/Columbia SO/composer. Taken from the complete boxed set of Stravinsky works.
Rachmaninov: Symphony no.2/LSO/Previn
Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition(orch Ravel); Night on Bald Mountain; c/w other Russian showpieces.
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