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Author Topic: New Musical Connections  (Read 119925 times)
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« Reply #2085 on: 17:44:22, 31-05-2007 »

Can I invent a PEACH WALTZ/POLKA?  Embarrassed
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« Reply #2086 on: 17:47:09, 31-05-2007 »

It is a waltz, but not a peach one! What citrus fruit goes with oranges? Ring any bells?
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« Reply #2087 on: 18:11:35, 31-05-2007 »

Lemon?
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« Reply #2088 on: 18:13:51, 31-05-2007 »

Where the Lemon Trees Blossom?
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« Reply #2089 on: 18:25:16, 31-05-2007 »

That's the one! Have a with your fruit salad!

Prokofiev – The Love for Three Oranges
J. Strauss II – Where the Lemon Trees Blossom
Bax - Apple-Blossom-Time
Satie - Three pieces in the form of a Pear

The Strauss is a pretty little waltz, recorded by Harnoncourt, Boskovsky and Mehta (at this year's New Year Concert) amongst others. I find a little Strauss (J) goes a long way, but this is one of my favourites.
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« Reply #2090 on: 22:54:28, 31-05-2007 »

Let me throw in a quick trio:

Beethoven, Elgar, Saint-Saens

These three have something in common, but even so one is an odd man out.

No more composers to help!
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« Reply #2091 on: 08:07:15, 01-06-2007 »

Beethoven and Saint-Saëns both wrote five piano concertos and Elgar didn't?

Another possibility is that they all wrote orchestral romances, but the Beethoven (2) and Saint-Saëns were for violin and orchestra, the Elgar Romance is for bassoon and orchestra.

Is the connection linked to their compositions, rm?
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« Reply #2092 on: 16:50:51, 01-06-2007 »

IGI - no, not there yet!

Yes, the link is to do with their compositions - you just need to look sharp at what you have already written!
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« Reply #2093 on: 17:15:59, 01-06-2007 »

So is it something to do with the piano concertos then? Elgar left sketches for a piano concerto which have been turned into a performable work and it has been recorded by David Owen Norris. Didn't Beethoven transcribe his Violin Concerto to a piano concerto? I'm not aware of a missing Saint-Saëns concerto, although there are several concertante works, such as Africa, which I think is quite a fine piece.
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« Reply #2094 on: 17:17:44, 01-06-2007 »

It's not that they all wrote piano variations on a theme by Beethoven apart from Elgar?
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« Reply #2095 on: 17:28:34, 01-06-2007 »

Aha! They all wrote violin concertos catalogued Op.61!

Beethoven - Violin Concerto in D major Op.61
Elgar - Violin Concerto in B minor Op.61
Saint-Saëns - Violin Concerto No.3 in B minor Op.61

so the Beethoven could be the odd one out in terms of key, although both keys have two # in the key signature (hence rm's clue), or the Saint-Saëns because he wrote three violin concerti.
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« Reply #2096 on: 18:17:46, 01-06-2007 »

Hoping that my previous answer to rm's puzzle is correct (), here's another connection to spot:

Offenbach
Beethoven
Chopin
Liszt
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« Reply #2097 on: 18:34:23, 01-06-2007 »

Offenbach: Barcarolle (HOFFMANN)
Chopin: Barcarolle Op. 60
Beethoven: ?
Liszt: ?
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« Reply #2098 on: 18:38:06, 01-06-2007 »

Not Barcarolles, but you have identified the correct Offenbach work! (i.e. The Tales of Hoffmann)
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« Reply #2099 on: 01:18:34, 02-06-2007 »

Aha! They all wrote violin concertos catalogued Op.61!

Beethoven - Violin Concerto in D major Op.61
Elgar - Violin Concerto in B minor Op.61
Saint-Saëns - Violin Concerto No.3 in B minor Op.61

so the Beethoven could be the odd one out in terms of key, although both keys have two # in the key signature (hence rm's clue), or the Saint-Saëns because he wrote three violin concerti.

Just logged in to find IGI with the correct solution!!! Bravo!

It's a weird coincidence isn't it - I was accompanying a student in the St-Saens last week and thought (as I looked at the cover) "Op 61 - sounds familiar!!!"
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