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« Reply #2100 on: 08:36:34, 02-06-2007 » |
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It is really odd. The next question should be: which is the better violin concerto?! I'd probably opt for the Elgar (ducks behind sofa).
Another composer clue is needed, methinks:
Offenbach – The Tales of Hoffmann
Beethoven
Chopin
Liszt
Nyman
One piece identified so far, but, in truth, that one is probably the least helpful in spotting the specific connection.
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« Reply #2101 on: 12:45:24, 02-06-2007 » |
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Offenbach: Hoffmann (offstage performance of Don Giovanni)
Nyman: Il Re Don Giovanni
Liszt: Reminiscenes de Don Juan
Chopin: ?
Beethoven: ?
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« Reply #2102 on: 12:46:40, 02-06-2007 » |
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Very impressive! Do continue... Been listening to Act I of a new performance of Siegfried this morning (see Opera House thread).  |
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« Reply #2103 on: 12:50:02, 02-06-2007 » |
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I thought I was wrong!
Chopin: Variations on 'La ci darem la mano'.
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« Reply #2104 on: 12:52:53, 02-06-2007 » |
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Can the Beethoven be a quotation? 'DON GIOVANNI is immoral' (or something along that line.)  |
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« Reply #2105 on: 12:53:33, 02-06-2007 » |
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No, but it's not in the work's title!  Actually it is a quotation, but a musical one...  |
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« Reply #2106 on: 13:01:51, 02-06-2007 » |
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Of course! The Variations on 'La ci darem'!
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« Reply #2107 on: 13:02:41, 02-06-2007 » |
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Good, although not the one I was thinking of!
Slaving away, night and day....
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perfect wagnerite
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« Reply #2108 on: 13:04:01, 02-06-2007 » |
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Good, although not the one I was thinking of!
Slaving away, night and day....
Notte giorno facitar ....  |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #2109 on: 13:05:08, 02-06-2007 » |
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That's the one! Now, where does Ludwig van B quote it?
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« Reply #2110 on: 13:06:19, 02-06-2007 » |
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That's the one! Now, where does Ludwig van B quote it?
Diabelli Variations? (No, can't remember which one) |
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« Reply #2111 on: 13:08:20, 02-06-2007 » |
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Yes! Variation 22. That completes the puzzle - congrats to Parsifal and Perfect Wagnerite!  Offenbach – Tales of Hoffmann ( Don Giovanni is the opera being performed by Stella in the prologue/epilogue) Beethoven – Diabelli Variations (Var Number 22 is based on Leporello’s ‘ Notte e giorno faticar’) Chopin – Variations on ‘Là ci darem la mano'Liszt - Réminiscences de Don JuanNyman - In Re Don GiovanniBack to Siegfried now... |
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« Reply #2112 on: 15:39:22, 02-06-2007 » |
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It is really odd. The next question should be: which is the better violin concerto?! I'd probably opt for the Elgar (ducks behind sofa).
I'm already there! Much as I admire the Beethoven, it doesn't do for me what (particularly) the 4th Piano Concerto does. St-Saens is hugely entertaining, as ever, but is much more "on the surface". |
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« Reply #2113 on: 16:41:05, 02-06-2007 » |
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A quartet with an odd one out:
Donizetti
Delius
Verdi
Debussy
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« Reply #2114 on: 17:59:28, 02-06-2007 » |
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First stab...I'll await the verdict before revealing the Delius and the connection though, as it could be wildly wrong... Donizetti – Lucia di Lammermoor Verdi - Falstaff Debussy – Pelléas et Mélisande |
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