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« Reply #2550 on: 00:03:20, 02-10-2007 » |
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Ah. Symphonic Dances then.
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« Reply #2551 on: 00:04:11, 02-10-2007 » |
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Something to do with orchestral bells, pitched, tubular or otherwise?
Not linked to particular instruments, George. Bells might feature prominently in some pieces though... |
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« Reply #2552 on: 00:06:08, 02-10-2007 » |
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Ah. Symphonic Dances then.
Will do very nicely...now how are they linked? Respighi - Brazilian ImpressionsStravinsky Liszt Tchaikovsky - Manfred SymphonyBerlioz Rachmaninov - Symphonic Dances (though there are half a dozen pieces I can think of which would work as well) |
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« Reply #2553 on: 00:11:00, 02-10-2007 » |
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References to the Dies Irae?
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« Reply #2554 on: 00:12:04, 02-10-2007 » |
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Crate of  to Mr Garnett!! Care to identify the missing pieces where the Dies Irae is quoted, George?! The Respighi is in the second movement 'Butantan' which describes a visit Respighi made to a place where snake venom was collected, which he found particularly chilling (as would you or I, George). |
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« Reply #2555 on: 00:17:18, 02-10-2007 » |
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Hmmm. I thought I might have to put my mouth where my trousers were. Stravinsky: Rite of Spring Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique Liszt: Dante Symphony Oh that's it! Well done me  (But I'll admit I only got the Liszt one by googling.) The Respighi is in the second movement 'Butantan' which describes a visit Respighi made to a place where snake venom was collected, which he found particularly chilling (as would you or I, George).
Yikes, Your Eminence, I wish you hadn't mentioned that just before bedtime. I'll report on the Dreams thread tomorrow if there are consequences. |
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« Reply #2556 on: 00:18:25, 02-10-2007 » |
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Well spotted, George, although you could also have had Liszt's Totentanz which plays around on the theme which opens the piece.
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« Reply #2557 on: 00:19:58, 02-10-2007 » |
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(Was Ysayë on your list of extra composers? He used the Dies Irae to good effect in one of his solo violin sonatas.)
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« Reply #2558 on: 00:21:49, 02-10-2007 » |
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(Was Ysayë on your list of extra composers? He used the Dies Irae to good effect in one of his solo violin sonatas.)
Indeed, he was, strinasacchi. I believe the Sonata in A minor, Op.27, No.2 quotes the Dies Irae. I also understand that the sonata's subtitled ' Obsession'! |
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« Reply #2559 on: 00:25:05, 02-10-2007 » |
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Yikes, Your Eminence, I wish you hadn't mentioned that just before bedtime. I'll report on the Dreams thread tomorrow if there are consequences.
I knew it would be a cardinal sin to mention it...  On a happier note, Khachaturian's Symphony No.2 The Bell also quotes the theme, lending support to your theory about bells! |
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« Reply #2560 on: 00:26:02, 02-10-2007 » |
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Yes, although I was never sure if the "obsession" referred to the Dies Irae, the Bach E-major partita's Preludio (which is very quietly quoted at the beginning and end, I think?), or both. They're certainly both capable of getting under one's skin, though probably for very different reasons.
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« Reply #2561 on: 13:05:56, 02-10-2007 » |
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The Dies Irae is also quoted in Dohnanyi's 4th Rhapsody from Op.11 and jolly good it is too!
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« Reply #2562 on: 13:15:01, 02-10-2007 » |
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Yes, although I was never sure if the "obsession" referred to the Dies Irae, the Bach E-major partita's Preludio (which is very quietly quoted at the beginning and end, I think?), or both. They're certainly both capable of getting under one's skin, though probably for very different reasons.
'Both' gets my vote. The Bach is quote as the first and third phrases of the Ysaye, although incompletely, and is then varied for the rest of the movement. A really great piece and rewarding to play - especially the Furies (last mvt). The score is here: http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Ysaye%2C_EugeneTommo |
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« Reply #2563 on: 07:47:48, 06-10-2007 » |
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A new connection to attempt. Four composers to begin with...
Elgar
Dyson
Parry
Richard Strauss
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« Reply #2564 on: 20:19:47, 06-10-2007 » |
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Elgar: The Music Makers
Dyson: Ode to Music
Parry: To Music
Strauss: Fur Musik
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