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Author Topic: New Musical Connections  (Read 119925 times)
thompson1780
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« Reply #2640 on: 13:25:26, 24-10-2007 »

Try guessing/identifying some of the works first...  Wink

Random guesses.....

Orpheus in the Underworld
Beatrice and Benedict
Fingal's Cave
Silken Ladder
Samson and Delilah

Can't really see a connection there

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« Reply #2641 on: 14:08:21, 24-10-2007 »

Well, your first random guess struck gold, Tommo!

Offenbach - Orpheus in the Underworld
Berlioz
Mendelssohn
Rossini
Saint-Saëns
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« Reply #2642 on: 14:15:07, 24-10-2007 »

Offenbach - Orpheus in the Underworld (Can-Can)
Berlioz - Dance of the Sylphes
Mendelssohn - Midsummer Night's Dream (Scherzo)
Rossini - Barber of Seville (Una voce poco fa)
Saint-Saëns - Danse macabre

Linking work: they're all quoted in Saint-Saens's Carnival of the AnimalsSmiley
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« Reply #2643 on: 14:18:35, 24-10-2007 »

Stunning!! I thought that was going to take hours of teasing out, opi - congratulations!

It took me some time to hear the Mendelssohn quote (the first two bars appear in The Elephant) but spotting the others is quite fun.
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« Reply #2644 on: 14:23:22, 24-10-2007 »

It's quite a fun work -- once in a while!  Wink

I've always particularly liked the way he transforms the Can-Can and Danse macabre. And, as you say, it's quite fun spotting the others too.  Cheesy
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« Reply #2645 on: 19:01:25, 24-10-2007 »

I was quite baffled then, ha ha!! Nevermind.  Congrats Opilec!!
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« Reply #2646 on: 10:43:53, 25-10-2007 »

OK then clever dicks! What links 't following?...

Thomas Arne
Bach's Fugue in E Major (BWV 878)

If thou can't find out what 't second is for yoursel', tough!
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« Reply #2647 on: 01:06:28, 26-10-2007 »

I cannot answer Ena's puzzle, although I can well imagine her playing the Bach on her harmonium. I could set the following composers: Arne, Beethoven, Wagner, Sullivan but that would be too easy.

Just a couple of points about the Carnival of the Animals, though. The clarinet indeed quotes from Rossini's Barber of Seville towards the end of Fossils, but just before that it quotes from his Journey to Rheims too. It would have been stretching things to have included Mozart in the list, for the appearance of Ah vous dirai-je, Maman, but perhaps he could have been the next composer to be mentioned if really necessary. The tune at the beginning of the finale is a variation on the dance for three cygnets, the one where they link arms, from Swan Lake, so perhaps Tchaikovsky could have been added eventually too.

A few weeks ago I read, in The Times I think, that French poultry don't go cock-a-doodle-do as they do in England, but I cannot remember the French equivalent. And yet there is a distinct cock-a-doodle-do, it seems to me, in the Hens movement (and Danse Macabre for that matter).
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« Reply #2648 on: 01:10:07, 26-10-2007 »

I cannot answer Ena's puzzle, although I can well imagine her playing the Bach on her harmonium. I could set the following composers: Arne, Beethoven, Wagner, Sullivan but that would be too easy.

I haven't got Ena's link either, Tony, but I expect Britannia could link your quartet!

Just a couple of points about the Carnival of the Animals, though. The clarinet indeed quotes from Rossini's Barber of Seville towards the end of Fossils, but just before that it quotes from his Journey to Rheims too. It would have been stretching things to have included Mozart in the list, for the appearance of Ah vous dirai-je, Maman, but perhaps he could have been the next composer to be mentioned if really necessary. The tune at the beginning of the finale is a variation on the dance for three cygnets, the one where they link arms, from Swan Lake, so perhaps Tchaikovsky could have been added eventually too.

Hadn't spotted the Tchaikovsky Swan Lake crib, but Mozart was indeed the reserve composer on my list! I didn't know about the Rheims quote either...you learn something new every day - especially on these boards!
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« Reply #2649 on: 09:33:16, 26-10-2007 »

OK - I foxed you. But t'Inquisitor came closer than he thought! And Tony were right 'an all. We used to go back to't Mission and sit round t'harmonium after leaving Rovers. Martha used to love Bach, and when I played her t'E Major fugue she used to join in final chorus at t'end, after which we'd break into a final round o' Rule Britannia...

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« Reply #2650 on: 09:51:55, 26-10-2007 »

Very good, Ena. I'd suspected it would be one you had to hear...have just dug out a recording my that young whippersnapper Barenboim and had a listen!
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« Reply #2651 on: 10:01:04, 26-10-2007 »

Good one Ena, I can see how that must please you.. being so patriotic an' all   Grin

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« Reply #2652 on: 20:47:29, 26-10-2007 »

Have a go at this little quartet, Ena. I'll turn it into a quintet if needed... Wink

Handel
Sallinen
Henze
Evelyn Glennie
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« Reply #2653 on: 21:06:41, 26-10-2007 »

Have a go at this little quartet, Ena. I'll turn it into a quintet if needed... Wink

Handel
Sallinen
Henze
Evelyn Glennie


Sallinen - Winter was Hard
Henze - Royal Winter Music

But I don't think his Reverance is searching for these titles, because he hasn't included Schubert.
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« Reply #2654 on: 21:10:25, 26-10-2007 »

pim,

At least you are trying with this one. I got side-tracked reading about the Glennie-Slatkin affair  Roll Eyes which until now I knew nothing about.
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