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« Reply #4170 on: 23:10:49, 25-03-2008 » |
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Mäntyjärvi was new to me until recently. Well worth exploring.
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« Reply #4171 on: 01:08:22, 26-03-2008 » |
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A slightly desperate guess - is it anything to do with scars/marks on body? Zappa: Weasels ripped my flesh Janacek: Jenufa (J's scar) [edit for a completely mis-remembered fact, which leaves this suggestion even more hopelessly meagre than before ...  ) |
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« Reply #4172 on: 13:07:49, 26-03-2008 » |
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I was thinking some kind of Boulez link given the Zappa and the Berlioz...
But then I thought better of it.
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« Reply #4173 on: 13:18:33, 26-03-2008 » |
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Would it be as simple as works which are women's names? Janacek: Jenufa Berliz: Helene Shosta: Katerina Zappa: Suzy Creamcheese Swayne: Ophelia Mozart: Julie Mantyjarvi: Maria Nope, thought not  |
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« Reply #4174 on: 13:21:37, 26-03-2008 » |
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I'm not sure I'm really making any progress on this, but wonder if it could possibly be to do with cousins? Giles Swayne is a cousin of Elizabeth Maconchy Berlioz - Béatrice et Bénédict: Héro and Béatrice are cousins Janáček - Jenůfa: Števa and Laca are both in love with their cousin Jenůfa Mozart - Carl Maria von Weber was the cousin of Mozart's wife, Constanze Perhaps Zappa had a famous cousin or wrote a song about one? Shostakovich? No famous cousin that I can locate, but he does have a famous son, so is he the odd one out?!  Can't be that., IGI, Zappa'a sons and daughters have each found fame in their ways. Indeed, Diva, who, IIRC became a foley artist, turned up on the recent television documentary about The Mighty Boosh.  |
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« Reply #4175 on: 14:05:43, 26-03-2008 » |
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Thanks, martle...feeling better already, (despite the fact I should be finishing work for tomorrow's staff meeting and Thursday's interview ) especially as I notice that there was a hit in my last attempt: now, what links the works Jaakko Mäntyjärvi, whose work list catalogue I have before me, and Janáček's Jenůfa? Curiouser and curiouser... There is a link, but it may be a tad obscure (surely not?): Mäntyjärvi wrote a choral piece entitled Day is Cooling - which, IIRC, is very close to the opening line of Jenufa (which I think is about the day cooling, Steva not having returned etc - I'm reading this at work and so libretto-less and Kobbe-less) So..... Are we looking at twilight, the end of the day, sunset or something along those lines? |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #4176 on: 14:39:51, 26-03-2008 » |
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Thanks, martle...feeling better already, (despite the fact I should be finishing work for tomorrow's staff meeting and Thursday's interview ) especially as I notice that there was a hit in my last attempt: now, what links the works Jaakko Mäntyjärvi, whose work list catalogue I have before me, and Janáček's Jenůfa? Curiouser and curiouser... Are we looking at twilight, the end of the day, sunset or something along those lines? Zappa. America Drinks and Goes Home  Shorley Shirley, Shome Mistake! |
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« Reply #4177 on: 14:50:05, 26-03-2008 » |
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And Giles Swayne wrote a piece called Goodnight Sweet Ladies ...
(of course this could all be barking up completely the wrong tree)
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #4178 on: 14:56:59, 26-03-2008 » |
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And then pw, there is Berlioz "Bonne nuit, ma petite"
And Shosta's Five Days and Five NIGHTS
And Mozart's Eine Kleiner Nacht Musicke
Zappa. Night out on Freak Mountain
Sorted. Puzzle solved.
Hurrah!
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« Reply #4179 on: 15:08:30, 26-03-2008 » |
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Looks promising! A better Berlioz would be Nuits d'Ete, wouldn't it?
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« Reply #4180 on: 15:09:32, 26-03-2008 » |
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One hesitates to mention "Pygmy Twilight" here. |
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« Reply #4181 on: 15:30:36, 26-03-2008 » |
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One hesitates to mention "Pygmy Twilight" here. Curses Bryn!! You always out-Zappa me I somehow suspect all answers are wrong though. |
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« Reply #4182 on: 16:27:46, 26-03-2008 » |
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Anna's closest - one of the other works is also a girl's name  Janacek: JenufaBerlioz: Shosta: Katerina Ismailova/Lady Macbeth of MtsenskZappa: Swayne: Mozart: Mantyjarvi: Britten: |
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« Reply #4183 on: 16:38:31, 26-03-2008 » |
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 I posted girls names didn't I? Zappa: Big leg Emma Oi! You snuck in Britten there, very sneaky. Rose? I dunno, don't ask me, I is only the hired help.
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« Reply #4184 on: 16:48:13, 26-03-2008 » |
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No, I got it Mahlerei Jenufa was the step daughter. Lady McBeth was lusted over by her father in law. The answer is dysfunctional relationships! Problem solved. I really don't need to post the answers to the others do I? Hurrah. 40000 million points to me. Sorry, wrong thread |
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